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I've been on Wayland for the past two years exclusively (Nvidia).

I thought it was okay for the most part but then I had to switch to an X session recently. The experience felt about the same. Out of curiosity, I played a couple of games and realized they worked much better. Steam doesn't go nuts either.

Made me think maybe people aren't actually adopting it that aggressively despite the constant coverage in the community. And that maybe I should just go back.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes. Since 2013 or so, if I remember correctly. Gnome 3.10.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I don't feel like fighting my OS. It locked up every time it went to sleep and I switched to X and the problem went away. Maybe I'll try again but why bother? Everything is working fine for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I only use wayland on my t480 and it makes a noticeable difference on that machine, but not on my desktop with Nvidia. I have been testing it for a couple of days on my Nvidia box though. So far I've found it mostly works better than I expected but some games played on Nvidia+Wayland makes it look like my monitor is about to die with the weird flickers it does at times and under certain conditions (like loading screens it's unbearable), otherwise performance is good and seems to lock in at 144hz. Also does anyone know why there are no settings in the nvidia-settings app under Wayland?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Mid 2022, when i swapped my nvidia card to an AMD one. Instantly switched to Wayland (KDE Plasma) and stayed there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

No, I see no benefits

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Not yet. I'll give it another go when I get Plasma 6 (I'm on Debian, so either I'll switch to Sid or just wait a while).

Last time I tried it, it mostly worked, but mpv had some issues and missing features on Wayland. I haven't kept up with the mpv developments since then so I'm not sure if that's been addressed upstream yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

When I can use mtp connections with cli apps instead of only gui apps

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

When network keyboard and mouse sharing works. It is the only thing stopping me going full Wayland.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Have been using GNOME with Wayland on a dual GPU NVIDIA laptop for 2 years. DE runs on the integrated Intel card; Steam, games, anything that needs dGPU runs on NVIDIA. It’s been a smooth experience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Generally I have when I use Gnome or KDE on Linux, though I have started to prefer MATE, which doesn't have Wayland support yet afaik. I also started using FreeBSD on one of my computers a bit more, and I believe Wayland support is still a bit wonky on that right now. But as soon as Wayland support is there I'm definitely switching to that on the daily.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I use Sway exclusively on my personal systems. For work, I have to use Zoom, and you can't share your screen on Zoom if you're using Wayland. So I use xorg-server and i3.

Aside from Zoom, the only thing I wish would support Wayland better is ffmpeg. There are janky workarounds to make ffmpeg capture from Wayland, but they're... well, janky workarounds. If I abolutely have to capture video from my desktop, I switch to xorg-server/i3 long enough to do that then go back to Sway.

I'll switch to Wayland on my work machine when Zoom supports it. And I guess the ffmpeg thing, while unfortunate, isn't enough of a deal breaker to keep me from daily-driving Wayland.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I am a relatively new Linux user, 3 years (almost 2 years dual booted with Windows and now only Linux) and I started using Wayland after approx 2.5 years ago. I used it on my ideapad gaming with 3050etx and Intel igpu and prior to that I used some hp laptop... With gtx 980mx. I used manjaro then arch and then fedora for the last yeae mostly and I haven't encountered any issues with Wayland whatsoever

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

When I'm forced to, and not before then. X works perfectly well so there's no reason for me to switch to something else with less features.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I use multiple machines. On one of the core machines, I switched to Plasma 6 on Wayland when that was released. I used XFCE on X11 previously. It seems ok so far.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I've been using Sway on and off since 2020. Wayland always worked well as long as it supports the specific use case and the apps are doing the right thing (e.g. pipewire, portals, no Xwayland).

VRR with multiple monitors and HDR are likely the biggest reasons to use Wayland, as most other improvements are less noticeable. E.g. Sway always felt more responsive to me than i3 + picom, even with a single monitor in 2020.

If you have issues with applications not working well on Wayland, either wait for proper Wayland support or ditch them. For Steam this'd likely mean stay on X.org.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I've been using it since it felt usable enough in GNOME to me. Around 2015-ish, give or take a year. GNOME leading on Wayland support is a big part of why I switched to it from Xfce back then. Nowadays KDE and others have plenty good Wayland support too (better in some ways like allowing server-side decorations and global shortcuts) but I just haven't felt like trying to properly experiment to see what I like.

I've always avoided Nvidia on my desktops. Stuck with either radeon or intel and never had any exceptionally big issues with them on Wayland. Though other things like hardware accelerated video decoding have had a history of being spotty on some drivers/GPUs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't. And I will when it actually fucking works.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Niche, I know, but I'm waiting on full functionality in Input Leap (Barrier fork which was a Synergy 1.x fork). Right now it sounds like it's 90% of the way there but lacks clipboard sharing. I'm running Wayland on my desktop, but this soft kvm is pretty fundamental to my workflow on my laptop.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

A year and a half? Basically when hyprland got good enough. I used to use awesome and needed something with similar pretty features.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I use it with gnome on nixos without any problems AFAICT. Had the explicit sync issue with Nvidia initially but I ended up buying an rx6800 to use as the host GPU when I set up win11 with KVM. Been completely fine since.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I couldn't get the trackpad working right on X (why tf is acceleration on by default?), tried switching to Wayland in the first few hours of using Linux, and haven't had significant issues since. At that point I had no reference on performance, so no way to tell if X would be better.

There's maybe one bug that causes an unrecoverable GPU hang when using certain applications, but that may have been fixed in the kernel already, and I just need to use something newer than 22.04 LTS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Using Wayland with KDE Plasma 6 on Arch btw. But I installed the old NVIDIA driver 535, waiting for explicit sync in 555 to fix flickering in games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Been running Wayland for 5 years on my development laptop (sway, Intel GPU, blacklisted the nvidia gpu). At the start I've had a couple of issues, nothing too bad. Haven't had any issues for over 2 years. Switched to Linux on my gaming PC about a year ago, KDE plasma on Wayland but do most of my gaming from a steam gamescope session. Very happy overall with Wayland, glad it exists. Sharp text on a fractionally scaled display for reading code was just too compelling at the time and it only improved.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I've been using Wayland since the end of last year, I haven't done any real benchmarking but games run about the same for me on either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

No. I plan to switch when I replace my 3070 with an AMD chip.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would like to, but I'm running Arch with Cinnamon, and that desktop environment only has an experimental version of Wayland implemented. I've tried it, and it's too buggy to be used as a daily driver.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Same here, except on Mint. Once it becomes stable with Cinnamon I'll be happy to use it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Used it for the last few years. X just doesn't work right with multiple monitors of different resolution.

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