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Rather, I bought from the vendor who contributed their GPU drivers to the Linux Kernel. It just so happened that's AMD.

NVIDIA sycophants hate that one weird trick.

Is this MR NVIDIA related? It looks independent from that.

P.S fuck NVIDIA nonetheless

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I last purchased a 2080ti, so I will probably ride that comfortably for another couple of years, but I window shop new AMD cards sometimes. I could probably convince myself to buy one even though it's unnecessary, but I use and love my mini PC case, and the newest cards are too long to fit. I really hope smaller high-end GPUs becomes a trend to push innovation in that direction. Kind of like how phones just kept getting thinner for the longest time, I want GPUs to fight for shortest.

Stayed with X11 and have no problems.

Yes, but that's bound to be merged quickly, the protocol itself was the main holdup from what I understand.

We also need support for the new protocol in Nvidia's driver. Support will be available in driver 555, the beta of which will be released on May 15. So there's still some time to wait until it's fully fixed.

Currently yes, tho Wine has gotten pretty far with Wayland support, so it wouldn't be too surprising to see Wine Wayland be useable for gaming in the next year or two.

Is the vrr flickering about explicit sync too?

The Nvidia driver on Wayland has been decent for a couple of years and stabilized a lot over the past ~6 months. The flickering issue was specific to XWayland. Normal Wayland apps don't have flickering problems (not quite sure why tbh), but XWayland apps would often rapidly flicker between 2 frames since it only supported implicit sync, which confused the Nvidia driver, which only supports explicit sync. Now with a Wayland protocol for explicit sync, XWayland can be updated to support it and resolve the flickering there.

Nouveau should have already been fine, this should fix the proprietary driver's issues. AFAIK this is a core issue of the proprietary driver, so should affect all cards.

I tried Wayland on my 16xx series GPU, Electron apps were only annoying, but games were unplayable. The desktop itself and Wayland native apps worked fine, though.

In addition to what others said a recent Nvidia driver update also added a workaround to reduce out of order frames without explicit sync. Ime it just made it so that resizing a flickering window makes it stop.

It's not really card related, but rather it just comes up sometimes in niche circumstances. I only had this on my second monitor and then it went away with an nvidia driver update. (since then i moved to amd)

I only have experience with my current GPU (3070 ti) and only in Hyprland, but the only flickering I have is in steam windows, everything else works flawlessly on 535 driver. Still excited that it may be fixed soon!

For what it's worth, I have only minor issues on wayland with nvidia, and all were fixable by changing some configuration option or something.

Maybe my demands aren't too heavy, but I do play games. I also use gentoo which makes fixing things easier.

Well, this is the root cause of this specific issue if you treat nvidia's part of the stack as some barely changable black box (which is what it is right now). It's not that I disagree open source drivers would be better, I just already own an nvidia GPU :/

https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/4693

there's already a non-draft implementation, if I had to guess a few weeks before it's merged, and then you have to wait for a release, and then your distro has to package it. So, it's gonna be a while.

BUT, I think much more importantly is when it is merged into xwayland

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/967

Which should be fairly soon!

I saw a comment from an nvidia dev somewhere that XWayland support is enough to resolve the flickering, but compositor support is needed for best performance.

Well correct is a matter of opinion.

Nvidia doesn’t support implicit sync, because they view explicit sync as more correct, it lets the driver do fewer things that might be wrong and perform better. This is true.

The Linux world often assumes implicit sync works. This was never true.

If I remember right, the syncing issue was particularly egregious when you run windowed X11 programs on Wayland. So it could be that you got lucky.

I’ve been on NVIDIA with Wayland since June 23 (which is when I switched to Linux in general) and I am still mystified what all this fuss is about. Everything just… works? What am I missing?