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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Soral was convicted repeatedly in France and sentenced to jail time in 2019 for denying the Holocaust, which is a crime in France.

Yeah, it’s safe to say this is a consistent pattern of behavior for this guy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well he's a "polemicist" apparently, it's his thing and he seems to be pretty good at it. So what if it's a consistent pattern of behaviour? Maybe he's just an asshole, if that were illegal the world would have USA levels of prison camps.

[–] doctorn 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I totally don't agree with his views or condone the insult, but this is surely another hit to free speech,...

I miss the days people could just disagree without completely tearing eachother's lives down for it...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The sentence is strangely harsh for an insult. But the guy is Alain Soral which is a known antisemitic, negationist, conspiracy theorist, among other things. He is an absolute piece of shit that has been condemned multiple times in France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Soral?wprov=sfla1

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We can't disagree on basic human rights. You say an entire group of people are shit because of what they are born into, you can eat my shit and hair.

And yes, I'm "tearing each other's lives down" for it like yours because people are getting raped, jailed, and shot over it. We can disagree on taxes, the place to eat for dinner, what the play that's going to happen in town, we can't agree on "some people are more equal than others because I wasn't born like that."

Plus the guy denies the Holocaust. You're going to bat for "it didnt happen but i wish it did"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You say an entire group of people are shit because of what they are born into, you can eat my shit and hair.

What did he say? I can't find anything like that in the article.

[–] doctorn -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not batting for anyone... Just saying people these days are getting too worked up about things (that (sadly) have always existed and can't be changed) these days. 🤷‍♂️

Also, if you want to tear my life down for things I didn't say cause of my "I agree, but..."-opinion, then we're getting to the actual problem with this mindset of today: Constant attacking anyone that even thinks slightly differently and treating hem as if they are part of the bad things. 😅

I agree there shouldn't be hunger in the world and I agree the 1% have too much money and I can't agree more to the fact famous/any people should treat children like children and not like 'toys', but I just don't think fighting among ourselves on social media is ever going to solve any of that... Meanwhile we're creating a world where innocent people get permanently fired from positions they worked to get for being wrongfully sued or accused,... Also, it's degrading to general care as many people will start ignoring any infornation repeated too often and not even read it anymore when it's actually proven news either...

I want justice too, but that can never be achieved if you drop the "innocent until proven guilty" part that many justify away today in name of self-righteously wanting to save humanity from itself, and definitely not from an internet social trinket... 😅

One thing I did learn from all the years of internet is that you can't change people's minds on the internet, so (listening to myself) I'm not expecting you to change yours, but wanted to add my 2 cents anyway. 😜

Anyway, no hard feeling and have a nice day! 😉

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait. Did they just get "lesbian" legally declared an insult? Because that sounds like a huge step in the wrong direction for the gay community.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Discrimination based on sexual orientation is, rightly, illegal in Switzerland

Saying someone is a lesbian is fine, using it as an insult to degrade them publicly on TV is not

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I find this sentence inadequate. This is a waste of space in a prison. People who don't pose a physical threat shouldn't be moved to a prison. They should be mandated to pay the person they hurt and be forced into therapy to work out the source of their behaviour. Mind you, up until recently I lived in Ireland where dangerous criminals don't get put into prison, because there's no space left, so I have that bias. Sentencing him to 60 days away from the society neither compensates the victim nor helps him amend his ways. It could even have him double down through enstrangement and further develop siege mentality.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol... Can't take a simple insult... Must be insecure if you believe everything everyone tells you....