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Putin's suggestion of Ukraine ceasefire rejected by United States, sources say (www.reuters.com)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (8 children)

I'm pretty sure the Ukrainians will cease firing once the Russians leave their country and stop trying to murder them.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago

If you believe this, then you're completely ignorant of the events that led to this war in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (15 children)

Here's a question nobody has been able to answer for me yet.

Why would Russia abandon a 2 year long military operation they're winning.

Literally just because a bunch of American libs said they should online?

All reports are pointing to it not being the russians that would benefit from a ceasefire.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Sure, as long as the US permits them to accept a ceasefire.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

Because no fighting was happening in Ukraine before the Russians entered the country, right? The war just fell out of a coconut tree?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure the countdown

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (15 children)

I'm pretty sure the Russians will cease firing once the Ukrainians stop trying to murder them.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Ukraine should leave Donbas because they're clearly not wanted there.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Aren't Ukrainian drones attacking Russian civilian targets now?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That’s really bizarre because why does America have a say in Russo-Ukrainian affairs? Shouldn’t a ceasefire be determined by the two parties not currently at a ceasefire?

Somebody who is good at geopolitics explain

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Yeah why is it that also other western leaders like johnson visit ukraine and suddenly peace talks stop? https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/ Why are they encouraging a war where Ukraine would depend on even more western military and economic aid?

Somebody who navigates all this please help us understand

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Ukraine is a US puppet

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Don't know why the United States would have any say in Putin pulling the Russian paramilitary out of Ukraine. Ceasefire is simple, back your ass out of Ukraine, back to 2013 borders.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

They (the US) don't, and they acknowledge that.

In the interview with fucker carlson, Putin said that Ukraine is a vassal of the US and Russia does not negotiate with Ukraine as it's useless, they want to only negotiate with the puppet master.

Hence the offer, hence the rejection. It's geopolitical theatre.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

oh for fucks sake, putins russia has never once 'negotiated' in good faith. they just use it to buy time to resupply and relocate. every peace deal theyve made, THEY broke. ukraine gets to decide when it's time to talk. the US cant stop them

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Was it conditional? Or was it just a straight up offer of a temporary cease fire?

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