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We'd have a lot of empty houses and maybe cheaper houses.
Look. Personally, I love renting. Its fleksible.i can move whenever i want to and not think about selling. Also i can live in places where houses are practically unsellable and not worry that I can't sell once I want to live somewhere else
Also, I don't have to worry about repairing and maintaining the house. If I window breaks, I call the landlord. If a pipe breaks a leak, I call the landlord. For me, renting is great!
@cosmicrookie @stabby_cicada you could still have rental houses in a system with no landlords
@cosmicrookie @stabby_cicada I mean for example with housing cooperatives
Government housing
Have you seen what that looks like in the US? It ain’t pretty or comfortable.
That’s like buying something that’s “military grade” thinking it’s good. It’s not.
Sounds a little ironic in a solarpunk sub but works as a measure in the economic system we live in today I suppose.
wow look at mister lives in the good part of town over here where landlords pick up the phone
My brother in Christ you're the one paying for those repairs and more yourself, it's not like the landlord does it personally. Some might to save a buck, but you're still paying the bill.
Oh and all those repairs are tax deductible so they will pay less than you will on taxes usually.
Oh and if they would have to pay taxes, you're paying the taxes for them.
This is how everything you buy works. When you buy bread from the store you're paying more than it costs to make.
My point is, that I am willing to pay the landlord, to handle these responsibilities and risks
Edit: and inconvenience
Saying that you add nuance with that comment, is like saying anti-vaxers add nuance with their views.
It is proven time and time again that when something is done against landlords the normal people benefit. See Vienna for example, or the early ccp or the whole movement of and views of Henry George.
You can also see full video about the topic in Britain here
Sure. But no matter how many videos I watch or how many articles I read about how terrible landlords can be, it won't change the fact that I dont want to own a property and also that there are people who are unable to buy. There are also people who are not in that stage of life where they want to have ties to a house.
Its not black or white.
Hence nuanced
I might be in the wrong place, discussing and interesting topic though.
You are having a false dichotomy here, it is not either no landlords or no rental properties.
That is the whole point, you can have all the benefits and more without landlords.
Thing is, someone owns those houses and it's certainly not poor people like me. Also we need more housing in most western countries and private entities are definitely not going to build it if they can't rent it out. We need to figure out a way to force public entities like the state to build more housing.
A communist (or similar) revolution might take care of it, but that's a lot more involved than "all landlords disappear".
If all those people that have money to build houses were forced to give it away (taxes), we the people (the government) could just build the houses and not charge exorbitant rent.
The hard part is how to actually make the government do that. And ideally without turning your state into a stalinist or maoist dystopia.
We'd have more houses, they gotta live somewhere too
So a net positive....
In the number of houses available, yes
I think technically people that own their own homes are landlords too, but I get what you mean.