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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

to be honest; a factor of 10 seems a bit low

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (3 children)

who do I need to kill to get the infrastructure going?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (23 children)

Yes, I will cycle 15 miles (one-way) to the nearest produce section.

I'm all for bikes in sufficiently urban areas, but they are never going to be reasonable for 90% of America (by land mass, not population).

We need passenger train service (or other mass transit) that can cover lower density areas and still be reliable. (There's active train tracks within 100m of both my driveway and the produce section, so for me a passenger train would be ideal.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why the fuck is the nearest produce section 15 miles away? That's a major planning failure. Most trips that Americans take are less than 3 miles, so planning by population would be a lot more sensible than planning by land mass.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thats more a problem inherrent to how america builds its cities than it is a problem inherrent to the bicycle. I agree we still need to buld rail, but you would likely still have to increase density to get good ridership. Otherwise you start to sacrafice speed for frequent stops serving low density. A problem many buses already face.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"City" is an optimistic word for where I am compelled (by familial duty) to live. But, we need to plan for my density, too. Otherwise we'll still have millions of cars on the roads and they will need somewhere to park when they visit the city.

When I visit a real city, I don't mind paying for parking. I'd prefer not to have to pay for parking to get groceries each week, but that would probably be fine. But biking is not reasonable, and mass transit is unavailable.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

people who live in 90% of the least densely populated land on earth are... not that many people in the grand scheme of things.

And if you live close enough to civilization to have utilities like power maybe it's possible to also have a grocery store that's closer than average distance between towns in germany. Might even be beneficial idk.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would love to be able to ride trains to get places and not have to drive everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't dislike driving, but if I could fit my schedule around public transit, I think I'd prefer that, most of the time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Good public transit would be so frequent you wouldn't need to fit your schedule around it. I live in a place with passable public transit and I never check schedules before leaving the house. I wait 10 mins max (I'm still annoyed sometimes tho)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So the tracks are already there they just don't run passenger trains on it?..

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

worse, a lot of places have "rails2trails" programs where they rip out old train tracks and put in bicycle paths instead.

It makes more sense to put trains there and convert old car roads to bike paths

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Yep. Passenger service stopped in my area before I was born, but my father remembers being able to use them that way.

Freight trains run through multiple times a day, still.

The "old train depot" meuseam / visitor's center is literally across the street from the grocery store w/ produce section.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Even if you need/prefer an ebike you get about 85 ebike batteries out of one Nissan leaf not even a powerful e-car the most pedestrian one.

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