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Edit: When I say "Center Right" I also mean relative to Ferengi society.

A small addition to my post, Gender and Sexual Orientation in FERENGI society from a few months back.

I caught this frame in the background of LD S4 E6 Parth's Ferengi Heart Place, depicting an unclothed Ferengi woman.

This provides an interesting insight into the Ferengi social/political landscape of the Nagus Rom era. It suggests a center right that is fine with women traveling in public to some extent (maybe with limits, like it can only be with husband or father or out of necessity), but not them being clothed. This doesn't seem to be that common, as most Ferengi women we see in this episode (including on the television in Boimler's apartment) are clothed, but it seems to be a position that exists.

Honestly, I'd be interested in a novel (perhaps written from the perspective of an autobiography) or something about how Nagus Rom and Leeta survived leading Ferenginar the first few years and adjusted to such a different role from his engineering days. We could learn a lot about the Ferengi political system.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A truly feminist society would allow women to choose a traditional gender role but not force it upon them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wheel of time not femenist then?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Wheel of time is written by a horny progressive man in the 90s. It is feminist at parts, but a lot of the female power in it is heavily femdom coded

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I know what some of those words mean!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I guess that interpretation depends on how much free will anyone has in a world where "the wheel weaves as the wheel wills" and "the pattern" is a metaphysical? real? thing that can be manipulated and even destroyed. In other words, "fate" is a force like gravity in that world.

If "fate" says you can't be what you want to want to be, does it matter what gender you are?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

There role was forced upon them at least in the current era, men were equal in the last ine but cant access the power anymore without it corrupting them, which is why its purely woman in power for the most part thousands of years later, it was forced upon them technically

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would assume Rom wouldnt force them to be clothed. Just allowed them to do so and most did.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

They might have chosen to do so automatically. It's a lot easier to earn a profit if you look like a presentable businessferengi, especially when you're not going to be fined for wearing said clothes.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My favorite thing about this episode is that the name is a reference to an amazing show and for absolutely no reason I can figure out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well it is the greatest work of literature put onto film ever, written by the most prolific writer in history who is a modern version Shakespeare, Garth Marenghi.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I'm Parth Ferengi. Author. Dreamweaver. Visionary. Plus actor. You're about to enter the world of my imagination. You are entering my Heart Place.