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The box I cobbled together from old pallets, dirt is a mix of potting soil and local dirt spiced with chicken poo.

For the more observant viewers, you may notice that the closest 'V' is slimmer than the upper square -- the pallets were a little short. I plan to plant smaller vegetables in those areas.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It looks like you measured from the outside of the box. The square feet areas are supposed to be just the dirt. If you cheat them in a little to even them out the planting will still work fine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm new to this because this just popped up on my feed. But I've been wanting to get into some gardening and have a handful of pallets...any recommended reads?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Op was referring to the square foot gardening method, you can read more about it and the book here: https://squarefootgardening.org/ There are tons of YouTube videos and blogs writing about it too, if you prefer that over a book

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nicely done! I like to use this tool to drag and drop plants into a cell to get an idea of how many I can plant.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Oh! Nice, Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Even with the square foot method you can get some extra efficiency. Plant some radishes and carrots together. Plant some sunflowers and peas/beans together. A lettuce or two with a tomato.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. I had a friend that was able to get me a few for free.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

From what I understand, that's dangerous for gardens. Old pallets have likely been subjected to some of the most dangerous carcinogenic chemicals over their life.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends heavily on what the pallets were for; many (realistically, probably the vast majority) pallets are disposable, and haven't been treated because it's not worth the cost

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

That’s an incredibly dangerous assumption.

Doesn’t matter if it’s treated or not, you don’t know what was spilt on it. Lots of stores have dangerous chemicals. Walmart has pool chemical and motor oil….

Don’t trivialize something just because you aren’t educated. There’s a reason why people are trying to speak up about it, and than someone like you goes and perpetuates this absolute bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Absolute bullshit seems a little harsh. Are you referring to evidence that this is actually a thing, or is this just something that someone realized could technically happen and decided it was worth spreading fear and credit for the attention?

Of course stuff could spill on a pallet, but the number/percent of pallets that actually get reused like this as a cross section of pallet loads of stuff that are damaged, with a further cross section of things that are damaged and dangerously poisonous and don't make the wood look or smell odd has got to be in the ballpark of odds of getting hit by a bus.

Just because something is plausible doesn't mean everyone should take the risk as a certainly, just like the possibility of getting hit by a bus should keep everyone on their side of the street.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I agree that it's a bit of fear mongering but it's for a garden that will be growing food for years. To use your analogy, the chance of being hit by a bus when crossing the street is tiny, but I still look both ways because of the tiny possibility that a vehicle is going to run a red light.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'll add it to my microbiome of plastic.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Even just pressure treated wood is not recommended for veggie use.

The soil and water will leech chemicals out of wood and your veggies that you eat will absorb it.

I hate seeing all these crafts and people bringing the stuff in their houses, unless you source the pallets from someone trustworthy, they could have oil spilt on it for all you know.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wood treated with Copper Azole is safe for garden beds. We've pretty much stopped using arsenic based compounds to treat wood. And plants don't tend to pull in copper (it's even used in some pesticides sprayed directly onto plants)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

May not apply in your country*

And people use reclaimed wood all the time, unless you source it yourself, you have no idea unless the rating is still legible.

Also, some people avoid pesticides, so they would also want to avoid it in their frames too.

And plants don't tend to pull in copper (it's even used in some pesticides sprayed directly onto plants)

Copper is an essential plant macronutrient, so that’s just plain bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No more than they normally do. They've done studies on this. There's no extra copper in the plants due to the presence of this pressure treatment on the wood using copper azole

[–] [email protected] -2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I never said there was…

There’s also additional chemicals to just the copper dude….

Copper is a macronutrient, you want in your soil. So I don’t know what point you’re trying to make here?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It could be worse or possibly extremely dangerous. Micro plastics are only a concern because we don't know what long term effects they have.

On the other hand the arsenic used for wood treatment is dangerous enough that the USDA bans it for farms. Plus there's the risk of really dangerous stuff having spilled on pallets over the years like benzene.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Even a pallet from Walmart, motor oil or pool chemical spill on it, no way of knowing.

There is some places that do one time pallet use and wouldn’t be at risk, but I don’t think the majority of people are sourcing those.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is so cool! What do you plan to plant? You should add some mint and green onions.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My first batch will be some spring onions, radishes, and leaf lettuce.

Mint, on the other hand, I have in a pot in the house and will likely stay in that pot for the season (unless I get a bigger pot for it), it likes to wander here and would likely take over my garden.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

No likely about it, mint is a weed. Great for fresh mint, not so great if you want to contain or get rid of it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That sounds great! Radishes with a little salt are great.

Mint, on the other hand, I have in a pot in the house and will likely stay in that pot for the season (unless I get a bigger pot for it), it likes to wander here and would likely take over my garden.

But that's the fun!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But that’s the fun!

Agent of chaos, eh? Or are you sentient mint building your terrestrial army?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I was going to say, "That sounds like heresy to me." But you beat me to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I’m just someone who likes seeing my plants thrive :)

and kill all the others and continue on to take over other living bodies

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@Vertelleus Nature doesn't know rectangles 😉

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nature may not, but it may help me organize plant based on spacing required 😉

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

@Vertelleus It's a form of gardening I didn't see for decennia. Never raised beds. Never planted on spacing required. If there is a gap in the bed, I plant something in it. Plants love companions and I just look on the rules of mixed culture. A bed is never empty, when it is cleared I sow or plant something at once.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I used to love watching Square Foot Gardening on PBS in the 80's. Some videos are on YouTube.