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    The greatest debate of our time (files.catbox.moe)
    submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Then this: :(){ :|:& };: is most important code in existence.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    What you refer to as Linux, is actually called Forkbomb/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calli-[Process Killed]

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Can confirm it's a shitty metric. I once saved the company I was working at few millions by changing one line of code. And it took 3 days to find it. And it was only 3 characters changed.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    That's the curse and blessing of our profession: efficiency of work is almost impossible to measure once you go beyond very simple code.

    You can feel like a hero for changing three characters and finally fixing that nasty, or you can feel like an absolute disgrace for needing days to find such a simple fix. Your manager employs the same duality of judgement

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    I feel like a hero in this particular case, it was a bug in a code that was written when I was still too young to even read. And no one knew how to run it. We didn't have access to the pipelines so no one knew how to build it and how to run it. It was a very obscure hybrid of C and PHP. I basically had to be the compiler, I went line by line through the whole codebase, searching for the code path that caused the error. Sounds easy enough, right? Just CTRL+click in your IDE. Wouldn't it be a shame if someone decided that function names should be constructed as a string using at least 20 levels of nesting where each layer adda something to the function name and then it's finally called. TL;DR it was a very shitty code.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ubuntu: "Linux"
    Fedora: "Linux"
    Arch: "Linux"
    Gentoo: "Linux"
    Slackware: "Linux"
    Debian: "Free Operating System"

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    There's more truth to that than most people realize: Linux is only one kernel option in Debian:

    Debian GNU/kFreeBSD

    Debian GNU/NetBSD

    Debian GNU/Hurd

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Debian: "Libre Operating System"

    FTFY

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Lifree

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Freebre?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    But the compiler is GNU!

    If you compile windows with GCC is it gnu/windows?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    So, how's Hurd doing these days? If they want their own operating system, maybe they should release version 1.0 of their kernel.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    holds up linux os without gnu software WHATS THIS THEN HUH?!

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    There are distros without GNU, like alpine.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Just say linux, the 'gnu + ' is a given

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I thought it was arch?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    I use arch/linux, btw.

    As a german I also use Arsch, btw., for sitting.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    This is why Windows users don’t switch.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I used Linux for many years, I still run it for my personal projects. I'm sure it's not everyone but damn the community is toxic as hell to newbies. If something doesn't work it's your fault. Don't know what flatpak is? You're an idiot. How do I use X? Don't use X it sucks but also I won't provide alternatives. Linux just works now open up terminal and type these flags to mount your external drive correctly so other programs can see it.

    I love the power and customization but it's a confusing world at times with unhelpful people.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I mean X does suck. Unfortunately, it's still the better choice sometimes. At least Wayland is clearly better than the other X.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    X in my post was meant to mean anything, as in unknown. But I see the confusion in regards to the window manager haha