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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

welp I signed up for the waitlist.

I'll use it for a disposable email at first, and if it endures and does well I'll move my main shit off to it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm listening...

But how is a small non-profit going to afford a free email service? Ads in every email?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Based on what I've seen in their forums it will be a paid service. I think it will be free at first for beta testers but I assume they are targeting people who currently use services like Proton.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the info.

But I think they'll still need an ad driven free version to gain acceptance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

nah. ad free paid emails are already a thing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

I'd consider it. If they host things outside of the US/start moving operations overseas, it'd be a lot more interesting. I sub to Proton for email, VPN, and drive support. Still hoping someday for proper Linux drive support so Mozilla/Thunderbird can target that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Sounded great until the "assist" ai feature. I friggin hate Gemini in gmail so any other kind of ai is an automatic nogo for me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Thundermail… yeah yeah. :gently pushes my aol.com account under the sofa:

[–] [email protected] 206 points 1 week ago (19 children)

No matter how much I hate Mozilla's new path, companies like this challenging big tech are bold and have a lot of courage. If I set aside my personal op opinions about Mozilla, I actually admire them for this. They can actually dent big tech with funding from big tech itself.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I keep hearing a lot of negative comments about Mozilla lately. I’m wondering if this move is more in line with then just turning into another google rather than disrupting the marketplace.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For now, they're better than Google. I have some bad opinions about them, but anything better than Google competing with Google is an improvement.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 week ago (9 children)

If this works out it might be a nice place to migrate to away from my self-hosted e-mail provided they eventually let you bring your own domain. Just sucks that e-mail is essentially the most secure thing you need to have since compromising that can compromise every account attached to the e-mail. That’s a lot of trust you need to instill in your e-mail host.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I think it's incredibly important that people know, with absolute certainty, whether or not the new Mozilla/Firefox privacy policy in any way applies to / covers such a service.

I'm not saying I know the answer- What I'm saying without a concrete, permanently applied answer it's not even considerable.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There is no email service that exists without a terms of use and privacy policy. I still feel everyone overreacted about Firefox. It's funnier how many people said they switched to Brave because of it and all the super shady stuff Brave has done.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

at exists without a terms of use and privacy policy. I still feel everyone overreacted about Firefox. It’s funnier how many people said they switched to Brave because of it and all the super shady stuff Brave has done.

Being angry at the Mozilla foundation for those changes is understandable. Switching to Brave because of it is plain stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was thinking ab this being april fool bcz it's posted on 1st...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Google announced Gmail on April 1

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Thunderbird Pro will apparently be:

This email thing plus Thunderbird Send (which is basically https://send.vis.ee/), Thunderbird Appointment - a scheduling tool and Thunderbird Assist, which is:

"...at least for now, being cautiously labeled as “an experiment” that will allow users to take advantage of AI features within their email. However, the goal is to be lightweight enough that the language models can be run locally on a user’s PC in the interest of privacy. This service is being developed in partnership with Flower AI, which leverages Nvidia’s confidential compute to provide private remote processing in the event a user’s PC isn’t powerful enough. Sipes emphasizes that any remote processing features attached to Thunderbird Assist will always be optional, in the interest of ensuring complete user privacy."

So AI shit that nobody asked for or wants.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

This sounds like proton except I haven’t heard a thing about cost or encryption which leads me to believe you will pay with your data and there will be no encryption.

Proton is the bare minimum for email services. Email should be fully redone at its core.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This covers my thoughts about damn near every "helpful" feature this side of auto-complete email addresses.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Out of all the articles and the official release announcement, you could share, you shared forbes which violate people privacy.

Why?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I went looking for something official but couldn't find it.

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