It's as though there are two Democratic parties
One that yells and protests and works for change and another that makes sure nothing ever changes
But your never really sure who is in which group
this post was submitted on 30 Mar 2025
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But your never really sure who is in which group
It's pretty easy to determine which group our representatives are in.
Which is why we should stop searching for babies in this toxic bathwater and dump it out.
We need to end the Democratic party to end the Duopoly.
AOC
Bernie is touring with AOC for a reason. He’s demonstrating the next leader now. She’s already here.
They already refused AOC as house speaker. The DNC still would rather have Trump than Bernie or AOC at the helm.
Which is one of the reasons that going forward, I’m now considering third parties a completely fair choice. If DNC leadership continues to refuse to pull their heads from their asses, I’m not going to give a shit about casting a “spoiler” vote, considering the existing leadership have not only refused to relinquish their chokehold on power, but also because they have shown themselves to be their own spoiler party in most cases, and the outcome would be functionally identical (looking at you, Schumer, you vapid, spineless, fascist enabling cunt).
How about the other grift of trying to fix the Republican party from the inside instead of Democrats?
Well I don't know about that. Maybe if this current outrage gets enough people to engage in internal party politics the DNC can be reformed? I'm honestly not too knowledgeable about that area of US politics, but my understanding as a layperson was that there isn't really anything (except for party-internal conflict obviously) preventing registered democrats from trying to reform or even replace the DNC.
But even if that is possible not sure if it would be fast enough. There are probably a host of different internal elections involved to gain the required influence, and the next national midterms elections are probably way beyond Trumps deadline for going completely mask off "I'm your dictator now"-fascist.
I remember in 2016 when Bernie was supposed to be the one to save us from the Duopoly, then he endorsed Hillary Clinton.
I will beleive it when I see it
I completly agree with you. But....
The DNC would never endorse her and she would get a media blackout as an independent. Democrats would rather be irrelevant but rake in corpo money than pivot to anything progressive.
I’ve heard people saying that Bernie and AOC aren’t progressive enough for them.
I don’t think it’s worth going after people who are looking for any reason not to vote.
And apparently some people don't like reality, based on the downvote(s). But we don't live in a fantasy Democratic-socialist republic with ranked choice voting and districts without gerrymandering and more than two political parties. We live in this current shithole hellscape called reality and the likelihood of AOC getting the nod or being leader of the DNC is less probable than the second coming. It would be very nice but it ain't happening.
Former NYC Mayor Ed Koch said it best.
"If you agree with me 51%, vote for me. If you agree with me 100% see a psychiatrist."
They couldn't vote for Humphrey and we got Nixon.
They couldn't vote for Carter and we got Reagan.
They couldn't vote for Gore and we got Bush.
They couldn't vote for Hilary and we got Trump.
Thank god we have Progressives pushing the country to the Left!
Nah, fuck off with that noise.
Bernie voters overwhelmingly voted for Hilary - around 80%.
Hey good things most of them voted for Joe Biden who not only delivered jack shit to the American people, but also spent over $20 billion of their tax dollars aiding and abetting a terrorist nation committing genocide against the Palestinians in a crime against humanity many if not most Americans do not support.
Imagine if sleepy Joe did something that actually helped the citizens and made everyone WANT to vote for him?
Hard to push the country to the left when there are a bunch of braindeads tying themselves to the do-nothing-democrats (yes - Bernie and AOC are democrats) or the radical republicans and blaming other citizens for not sipping either flavor of the kool-aid.
If America were drowning, and a woman offered to throw them a life preserver, America would rather wait for a man to help instead and die. Perfect candidates? Maybe not. But both Clinton and Harris were abundantly qualified, and we chose, CHOSE, a dictator, an unapologetic misogynist, a criminal, a failed business man, a known Epstein associate, the playboy of the 80s, a bona fide piece of shit, instead, the same one, TWICE, even after his absolutely chatoic first term. I don't want to die due to the ignorance of others, but it's tough to argue we don't deserve it.
Blaming Kamala's loss on her gender is beyond stupid.
There is a large group who voted both for Trump and AOC. Not for Kamala though.
Let’s not rewrite history, this is Trump’s first win through the popular vote. The American people chose Clinton the first time around, the electoral system set up to appease slavers 200+ years ago is what put him in power in 2016.
But then the country really and truly did vote for him. And that ~36% who didn't vote at all did vote for Trump. That is not up for debate.
That is also an oversimplification, because you’re assuming that all 36% of the people who didn’t vote had the option to vote. We are the most imprisoned population on earth, with some states (including one of the 2024 swing states) removing voting rights from people convicted of felonies.
That’s not even going into things like people working in jobs that have no problem violating the law and refusing to let them take time off to vote, people being illegitimately denied the vote at the polls over ID issues, long poll lines that mean some people wind up unable to vote for unavoidable reasons (childcare, disability, etc), 14 states don’t allow no-excuse voting by mail, I can keep going on with all the problems people run into while voting in the US if you want.
Obviously that’s not all of that 36%, but you are living in a dream world if you think every American citizen that wanted to vote got to.
Fine. We'll call it 30% of the population who didn't vote at all voted for Trump. Is that better?
You’re asking me if it’s better that there are ~14 million less Nazis in the US than you thought?
It should have never been close enough the first time for gamesmanship. And regardless, it's academic. The first time he was an unknown quantity. This second time is completely unforgivable. We have sleep walked into the second term with absolutely no excuses.
Maybe it would have helped if Clinton & Harris weren’t war criminals.
That man has to be white too.
Obama wasn't president, or was he white?
But Israel bruh ...
Bernie and AOC have been doing it to great effect. Dumb riddle.
Bernie also has shown he is willing to bend the knee to the Democratic party like in 2016.
And he's the only opposition that the billionaire owned news is willing to cover.
So I am hesitant on supporting him again.
After 2016 he's started to give off "controlled opposition" vibes IMO.
We need a person that can easily break down the real reasons people are suffering, that can reach the average American without coming off as belittling or consescending, and that can unite wide coalitions and instill a renewed sense of trust into disaffected voters. The left needs a populist. And in my opinion, after listening to her speaking on the Fight Oligarchy Tour, AOC fits this bill. Whether it is her or someone else, the Dems need a united front of this messaging, or they will allow us to get fucked once again. No more of the old guard, neoliberal, Chuck Schumer bullshit or we're toast.
EDIT: spelling
Hopefully someone under 65 years old
There are a few trying to but the old dogs are still in the way
Probably George Bush or something
I say we pick this guy
Who is that?
Juan Guaido, self declared interim president of Venezuela.
And great meme whenever a power vacuum presents itself.
(First dude was the acting president of Venezuela)