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The Geneva-based World Health Organization (WHO) has proposed cutting its budget by a fifth. This comes after its largest contributor, the US, decided to withdraw. The organisation must now reduce its tasks and staff, it said.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can hear the echoes of people saying “why should I care about US politics?”

This is one example. The biggest problems we face as humanity can only be solved with a global effort.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We should get to the point of being knowledgeable about the WHOs function, current financial support and reasons thereof, and what we can do to support its functions. Focusing on what another country does or does not, even if related to a common resource it's a waste of time at best.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (5 children)

.... Except what a country does or does not do directly impacts the WHOs functions and financial support, so.... Kind of important.

There are many contributors, some substantially more than others, and any of them leaving will have an impact on the efficacy of the WHO.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

For a program that has such a profound impact, that seems like such a small budget. It’s a shame that the US cuts $116M to save precious money, while maintaining $16 billion in, for example, petroleum subsidies.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

It is.

Its a shockingly stupid decision. Not surprising considering the administration, but incredibly stupid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. $116M is absolutely inconsequential to the budget and by extension the American people. What the WHO produces has a huge impact on all people, including, yup American people. So the American people are only losing here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Everyone loses. That's the painful part.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

These contributions are so small. I wouldn't mind if my own country increased their contributions to WHO by 20% to make up for this shortfall.

The biggest problem is that the WHO is a worldwide health organization. Without cooperation from the States, there could be huge health impacts elsewhere that could have been otherwise averted. Will other countries also pull out?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

That’s what I was thinking except I was thinking about the military. Why are the numbers for health so much lower than for war. It’s not a little lower it’s multiple zeroes lower and that’s not just the US. The UK is paying $22m to the WHO but has a military budget more than 3,000 times larger!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait, those numbers are freaking tiny as fuck...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah I'm kind of surprised and in a way reassured.

Whatever the US contribution of $100m was doing it wasn't fending off the next pandemic.

I live in a very small city in nowhere Australia and we just spent $100m on a highway upgrade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how the amount that should be paid is divvied out. Or if it is all just voluntary. I was thinking Europe was quite outsized, so it could be by wealth, but also Japan seems quite large and Russia fairly tiny.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

They explain on their site here.

There is membership/assessed, which goes by each member country's wealth. There are also voluntary contributions, which comes in a few forms - core, which have no specific requirement on use, strategic donations which have general goals and can be applied to anything in that field/theme, and specified, which go to specific projects or efforts.

There is also a budget portal which details how money is spent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

The simplest way would be for the remaining countries to raise their contribution. And perhaps have a review of the executive salaries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

As per the map you uploaded, USA created a problem: can we do anything about it as non-Americans? No we can't. Let's then assess the situation, inform better the public about the WHOs function, and sit with as many of all the other countries to work to a joint solution.

Giving me news about US "actions" and internal discourse, for everyone outside of the US, is inaction-causing noise at best, propaganda at its worst. What should be communicated is the existence of a void and its possible consequences.

What about China filling the void being a possible consequence for example? Is it a possibility? Is it good or bad? Should we talk to China about it or not?

If I keep thinking about Trump and his henchmen I won't ask myself those questions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Giving me news about US "actions"…

You do realize that OPs article is about a US “action”? You’ve now been informed and might be able to take action like voting accordingly, writing to your representatives etc.

Or, as per my initial comment, you could’ve ignored US news and would be none the wiser.

Edit: one more thing, you know the US-made/Tesla boycotts happening all over the world? They’d not be happening if everyone ignored US politics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I do not vote representatives based on US policy here in Europe. I vote them because of what I expect them to do based on a current situation in light of the lessons history gave us.

The Tesla protests and torching may be useful now, but if we have nothing to replace those people with, even worse alternatives may come to fill the void.

As a EU citizen, my main focus is to build an alternative, not to protest and counteract a foreign dictator.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

USA created a problem

Which other countries can also create if contributions are altered.

Being aware of the how and why of national politics impacting international politics is a good thing. Suggesting otherwise is just putting blinders on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I am suggesting being aware of the problems, of the functions of the institutions and to do something. Other countries could also work to make WHO even better despite the absence of the USA (or thanks to it).

The WHO also has a lot of its budget tied to Melinda and Bill, two American billionaires, 390$B in 2022, so much more than the US as a whole and that is a much bigger problem, if you ask me.

Do we really want global health functioning on this basis, or should we use the shock to rediscuss the assumptions?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Where did I say we should focus on another country? Why does everything have to be black and white?

There are shades in between ignoring and focusing on you know?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

"I can hear the echoes of people saying “why should I care about US politics?”"

I am one of those.

Here on Lemmy there is so much US noise, I even started to downvote some posts and comment who are, in the end, just bitching around about a failed government when the problem I see in the US is actually a failed culture.

This post's original message may be a useful one, but not if you are focusing on what US did and should do, but rather what the rest of us can do in spite of the situation created.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I'm afraid of what the result will be in the global opinion when America's soft power diminishes.

If the only existing side remaining is that of a bully, then that's what everyone will see.

Isolation is the only result of this.

The free wolrd will have to take steps towards a new balance with the absence of the USA

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It just seems too obvious to me that this is the intentional sabotage by the Trump administration on behalf of at least Russia. None of this makes sense whatsoever. Not even if you're a stock market businessman who doesn't care about allies.

It literally only makes sense in the purview of relative strength gain of Russia; maybe China too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

No one trusts Russia either so Trump has put America in the same pig pen as Russia to wallow in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Probably fewer countries excusing the hard power they use?

Just because they occasionally kiss their victims doesn't make what they do to them first any better. It never has. But if the world's bully finally stops providing any good then maybe we can move on as a species.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People will die. Literally increasing morbidity AND mortality on purpose. WTaF?!?!

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The american elite managed to convince ordinary americans that evil foreigners are to blame for all their problems. This is something you notice if you follow US media.

They are just whining about how China, Europe, Mexico, Canada, the World Health Organization has been super unfair to them. Even Africa is blamed !

It's complete non-sense.

  • Lack of healthcare : Barack Obama tried a small improvement with his Affordable Healthcare Act. He faced unprecedented hatred. People accused him of being "radical communist". He had to beg Congress members to pass the bill.

  • Drugs : One criminal family, the Sacklers, bribed doctors and dentists to overprescribe oxicotyn. The FDA didn't act until it was too late. The result was an unprecedented opioid crisis that quickly turned into a heroin crisis. Prosecutors refuse to prosecute the Sackler family.

  • Bad infrastructure : George W. Bush spent $1 trillion dollar on the Irak war. Okay. What exactly did he get in return...? Are americans better off? Are Irakis better off? Contractors just swallowed the cash. China used their money to build a world class high speed train network.

  • Gun violence : Well, they sell guns like candies. Any 18 year old psycho can easily purchase a gun and shoot up the local school or movie theater.

  • Lack of affordable housing : American zoning rules prevent high density housing from being built. Look at San Francisco or LA. Individual houses but people are struggling to get a roof over their head.

Their problems are all caused by americans.

But unfortunately, many of them now think the rest of the world is to blame.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

The american elite managed to convince ordinary americans that evil foreigners are to blame for all their problems.

No they didn't. Millions of Americans already believed this and were waiting only for permission to externalize it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

As an American, fuck America.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Average voter: both sides have issues

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was going to ask why the US was contributing 20% of the WHO budget, but it looks like the US produces about 25% of the world's total GDP.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh no, when Trump hears that he's going to threaten to tarrif the US until they carry their weight, right? /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's taken the alternative approach. Cutting their GDP by 20%.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That'll show them!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

So, who must cut their budget? Don't keep us in suspense!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well good thing the US doesn't exist in the... world...