I'm out of the loop, what's wrong with plato?
this post was submitted on 19 Dec 2023
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That guy's skin colour really has no relevance to the story. It's like saying "tall woman next to me..."
It helps to paint a more complete picture of the situation. The color of the man’s skin says nothing more than the color of his skin. However, now I know that the man that came to him is black. Since people generally don’t mention the color of someone’s skin if they are the same color. I also can assume that OP is not black.
I was a very successful manager for a retail company at one point. I was so successful that I was flown to the company headquarters with a few other managers from all over the US for 2 weeks. I got a free hotel room, and per diem money. All I had to do was go to a couple of classes everyday.
The one class that has always stuck in my mind was a race relations class. The teacher was a very tall thin black man, and he started by calling on students and asking “what is one way that you and I are different?”.
This line of questioning went on for 7 or 8 students. He got answers like “You’re bald, and I have hair”, and “you wear glasses, and I don’t”. Finally someone said “you’re black and I’m white”. The teacher goes “AHHH HAAA! Finally! Now, why is that so hard to say? It shouldn’t be. After all I am black and you are white. We are different in this way, and as long as that difference isn’t being said as a negative then there isn’t a problem with it”.
Also, as someone who grew up in a city where the population majority is black, and currently lives in a city that is majority black. People have to make that distinction all the time, and it goes both ways.
TLDR it’s ok to describe someone using their skin color as long as it’s not being used to disparage someone. While I understand the context of where we are. I don’t find anything about OP’s post racist.
That reminds me of this skit: https://youtu.be/GS10Rp8zLE0?si=Yq_zs-GmdJZZxD9v&t=10
Technically for the story in that skit, though, the race of the other party was relevant. The mention of "you know how I like a little asian" provides relevancy to the fact that they're asian(and probably also to the other man being black), because it's a story about a sexual encounter with them. Nothing wrong with having a type.
Honestly, the only thing that registered for me was that Caleb didn't object to race being in the story until the second guy was brought up.
I don't think Freckles, the other character, was declaring a type preference though, I think they were just communicating the race of both guys as set dressing for the story ("you know how I like a little x" to me just sounds like a playful double down, but I really dont actually know, you do have a point here, but it seems ambiguous at best to me right now. I would have to ask the writers what they meant for me to be satisfied now haha good call out though!)
The only reason I posted it was because it seemed that Freckles was saying essentially the same thing as the person I was responding to. Race isn't a bad thing to include, it's only bad when you're being an asshole about it, essentially.