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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Meme of Giancarlo Esposito / Gus adjusting his tie with the caption "You won't buy Assassin's Creed Shadows because you're racist, I won't buy it because Ubisoft games are shit. We're not the same"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I hate that I'm on the same side as the racists though.

Thanks a lot Ubisoft.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

It's Far Cry 5 all over again

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The fun thing about The Last Samurai is that the title doesn't refer to Tom Cruise. He does not play a samurai in the film. He plays an American officer.

He hangs with a group of samurai, who are collectively the last of their kind.

That said, plenty of people complained about it in its day.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I might be terribly incorrect.

But i remember that Tom Cruise's character switches sides in the movie after spending time with the Samurai (He was captured by them). He trains under them and becomes a Samurai. In the end, they fight against the (British?) and lose due to a gattling gun. All the Samurai die except for Tom's character. So symbolically, Tom is the Last Samurai.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yes, it's a classic "white savior" trope.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

What did he save? Literally everyone but Meiji-backed forces dies at the end.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

he die didn't save shit though :D

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It is implied that Tom Cruise dies at the end. I think the confusion comes from a voice over, but you never see the character on screen again.

He also does not "become a samurai". He fights alongside them, but at no point do they call him a samurai.

Edit: looks like that link is wrong. He doesn't die at the end. I guess memory is a fickle beast.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He also does not "become a samurai"

Correct. That's why I said symbolically.

but you never see the character on screen again

I maybe incorrect but towards the end of the movie, the Emperor asks how Katsumoto died, to which Tom Cruise replies "I'll tell you how he lived". So he was alive?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hm, I may need to rewatch it myself. That also doesn't match what the link above suggests about interpreting the ending: "Algren finds redemption through his newfound purpose and ultimately sacrifices his life for the cause he once opposed."

Edit: I just checked the last scene. You're right, he doesn't actually die. Which means the link is also wrong.

Still, I think it's a stretch to say he's the last samurai, since he never really becomes a samurai. One important note is that samurai is "samurai" in the plural, too.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I hate that nazis glom onto any bad game and ruin the discussion around it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hardly ruin, you have to purposefully go find them gloating over Steam charts. But it's too funny that people really have choice enough now in the good graphics segment that Ubisoft is sinking. It's my fault, I cursed them when they left Steam for their 4-UAC-prompts-whenever-you-start PoS. They showed total contempt for their users with Breakpoint, tried an nft grift on the side, evolved all cosmetics to clown shoes level and totally failed to offer anything new. Where's Reflextions? Stuff like Grow Up / Home, metroidvanias on UbiArt Framework? They have great 3D engines and can't keep a team happy or unfired enough to have people that know how to use it and optimize a game and are able to take some risks with game design. It's all either heavily monetized multiplayer dreck or incremental QoL features in ever larger and shallower sandboxes in one of few large franchise flavors. There's not that much to discuss, woo bamboo cutting tech, a new coat of paint and some gimmicks. People claiming it's failing because it's either woke or culture appropriating are ascribing cultural import to a happy meal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I agree, I skipped over the latest Prince of Persia for a while because "eww Ubisoft", but it really is a great mteroidvania.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Why do people manufacture arguments like this? Who is arguing that one is okay while the other isn’t? A couple random people on the Internet?

The only thing I can think of is The Last Samurai is a 20 year old movie and that somehow means not bringing up this historic fictional movie = you’re okay about a white dude becoming a samurai but not okay about a black dude becoming a samurai.

Whataboutism at its finest.

Did it not occur to this person that perhaps some people just don’t care about the movie, haven’t seen the movie, or plain just didn’t bring it up because it’s a movie? Is it “double standards” for one to pick their battles and not be enraged at everything all the time? My god this shit is exhausting.

Disclaimer: I have no opinion on the game itself because I frankly don’t care about it because I’m not the biggest Ubisoft fan outside of Rayman. Nor does the above necessarily reflect my opinion on the game’s historical accuracy. I’ve always loved The Last Samurai and Memoirs of a Geisha though and find both beautiful and touching films, so make of that as you will.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

when you dont have arguments that fit with what you want to do, you make up your own.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I like how OP also chose to do zero research of all the controversy of the Last Samurai, and the years of PR control.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Ubisoft didn’t post this

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Oh man I just remembered how great that could have been.

Red Dead 2 dealt with racist cults so elegantly.

And Far Cry 5's "Oh we're going there!" And making the most surface-level milquetoast bullshit I have ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

I learnt the trope of the "white Savior" thanks to last samurai, and that was eons ago.

This is not a case of double standards, it's plain racism and influencer grifting.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

I remember people complaining about that movie when it came out actually

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Nah I think both of these are examples of pandering. The Last Samurai is even worse because there was no reason at all for Tom Cruise to be there historically. Yasuke at least was a real samurai and I think if you were to ignore the fact that ubisoft is obviously pandering for publicity and cash his story isn't much different than Will Adams' portrayal in Shogan.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Say what you will about the white savior trope, but wasn't there a historical reason for Tom Cruise's character to be there? Japan was accepting foreign influence and modernization at that time, from what I know of history.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I was wrong. He's based off of Jules Brunet who was a french officer that trained the Tokugawa samurai in the use of modern weaponry of the time. He sided with the resistance against the emperor of Japan until he was evacuated by a french warship later on when the resistance was defeated. He wasnt a samurai by any means but he was a real guy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The story's title is in reference to "The last of the Samurai", not Tom being a Samurai, and the last one.

Kind of reminds me of Big Trouble in Little China, where the story follows a white guy, and the true heroes are in the background.

That's the narrative shared by the studio which I begrudgingly accept. Even though the title and Tom being the face of it muddles it a lot. And I also don't consider it a good movie.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I mean, it's a common trope in story telling to use an outsider protagonist (from the perspective of the people in the story) to allow world building and immersion in the world/culture your story is set within.

So, the "guy with amnesia", "orphan kid", "dude in a foreign land", "time traveler", "new person in the organization", "certain types of isekai" tropes all exist to tell a story where the reader/viewer get to learn as they go.

Fairly popular in historical fiction, fantasy, and many other genera.

It makes "Shogun", "The Last Samurai", "Marco Polo", "Big Trouble in Little China", and others like them more accessible to "Western" aka "white guy" demographics.

I don't really see an issue with it, when done well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It's also not pitched as being based on a true story. I take less issue with him becoming a samurai than surviving the last real samurai, lol.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

In the same way that someone replaced all rainbow flags with confederate battle flags in Spiderman, someone's gonna mod the game to change the character's texture, then racists will also be happy (unless the game is shitty idk).

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