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Summary

Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger dared Donald Trump to press charges against him after Trump claimed Joe Biden’s pardons, including Kinzinger’s, were “VOID” due to being signed with an autopen.

Kinzinger dismissed Trump’s claim as a distraction, pointing out that autopen use is constitutional and has precedent.

He accused Trump of obsessing over January 6 because he was judged guilty in public opinion.

Kinzinger challenged Trump to act rather than make threats, saying, “Bring the charges then... because we will crush you in court.”

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Probably best to incite trump to really obvious criminality. Like using the secret service to take someone out. He's stupid enough to fall for it and maybe then the majority would be 'woke' and get rid of him.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Would it even matter though? The criminality is really obvious as it is. When he said he could shoot someone in Times Square or whatever and not lose support, that was an uncharacteristically lucid, accurate and honest statement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe not, but I live in hope that for most people there are lines that not even cult leader can cross.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

We've crossed those lines a dozen times and he still hasn't lost support.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Has the criminality not been obvious thus far?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

To us. Not to stupid, ignorant and brainwashed people. Or not in a way which is important to them. I mean, most rich people have engaged in some kind of criminality, or what should be criminal. Tax fraud.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Fascists want to boil the frog slowly lest it hops out of the pot.

Force his hand, either everyone will know full stop that he's really Cheeto Mussolini or he doesn't and keeps losing momentum. We fight this in the courts because that's the only check there is right now. Hopefully there are elections next year and enough seats go far left dem or independent and the centrist dems start realizing their faces are next.

Either way, get to know your neighbors. Form or join community gardens. Start a neighborhood watch or cleanup action. Go to your local civic board and government meetings. Elect people who represent you and your interests locally at the mayor and state rep level.

We're all going to need to help each other out soon. We keep us safe.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Lmao real??

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 hours ago

Does not apply imho.

MAGAGOP needs to be called out at every turn. Whether you're brash about it is not very important; but knowing Trump's weak ego, it just might unbalance him and make him look even worse in the public eye. 👍

[–] [email protected] 49 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Trump's response is most likely going to be a predictable illegal use of force of authority, more like.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

OTOH, better make use of the judicial system while it still exist.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Narrator: He was then arrested.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 hours ago

Then later tortured, after a year. His confessions used to arrest more. It’s almost predictable.