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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

USA has always been corrupt. What's chocking is the brazenness of this administration. Former administrations at least had the decency to do it in the shadows.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago

Satellite internet is simply never going to best the throughput and stability of fiber. Just another corrupt action so this administration can line their pockets.

[–] [email protected] 184 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I think the bigger headline should be the huge conflict of interest between Musk being a megadonor and "advisor" / leader of DOGE (depending on if you ask Trump or his minions) and being the CEO of Starlink owner SpaceX.

Add it to the list including lease of Starlink services and kits to the FAA.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago

In a just world they would be publicly executed for blatantly grifting 300million+ people.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's called crony capitalism

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

It's called Late Stage Capitalism, converting and eating itself into fascism.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Since citizens united, the notion of this type of conflict of interest is a theoretical talking point

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Wow I’m shocked. This is my shocked face.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There is absolutely no reason the US government shouldn't be launching their own public satellite internet.

Look at North Korea. People get killed for smuggling in flash drives with western media into the country. We could be streaming it from uninterruptible satellites. We could be fighting the global information war on a level most other countries could only dream of.

On the domestic end, if we get Internet access to every corner of the country, it opens up remote work to every American. That could bring an incredible economic boost to impoverished rural areas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

We are losing the information war at home. Why would we wish our terrible misinformation on anyone else? They’d turn this into a news max global broadcast system.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

Trump shut down Radio Free Asia. And Radio Free Europe, and Voice of America. I don't think he cares about getting the message out there.

And as far as a public Internet? Have you met the US? We can't deliver electricity or water without someone making a profit on each unit of energy or water delivered. It's unamerican. Why would satellite Internet be any different?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah amigo, I get that'd be amazing but you think the government would want highly educated populace here and everywhere? and with free access to all kinds of information?

Yeah right...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Sadly, I think it's been established that access to the internet doesn't make people more educated.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I would much rather see Europe doing it.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As someone that lives in the rural US and has no option for internet besides Starlink, I'd much rather have fiber. Starlink isn't bad, but it's garbage compared to fiber.

Plus I don't want to give Elmo my money. I really wish I had other options.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Connect yourselves. Telecom Cooperatives have a long and successful history in developing rural telecommunications

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

My grandmother’s rural electric coop laid down fiber to most homes they service to. She has faster Internet than me in town.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You’re lucky you get any channels besides Fox News. Keep complaining and you’ll go back to dialup ;) ;) ;)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You straight up don't even get dial-up in some of these parts

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fiber is amazing. I paid $90 for 400 down and 10 up on cable... Then moved to a place with fiber. My fiber is now $49 for 1,000 down and 1,000 up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

in the west coast sonic can provide up to 10gbits. for 40$ starting price. catch is the COL is somewhat expensive. for the longest time xfinity was the only choice, and we have known thier constantly changing the tiers of the services to charge people more.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And it totally won't be monitored or censored ... promise! /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

probably the point of putting it in the white house, so russia can monitor it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

ATTENTION ~~CITIZEN~~ ILLEGAL ALIEN:

Connection to [lemmy.dbzer0.com] has been [BLOCKED] due to [RADICAL ANARCHIST TERRORIST ACTIVITY]. US-SchutzStaffel Agents have been dispatched to your location.

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. HAIL TESLA!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Starlink makes sense on the top of mountain. If you have electricity from the grid, you should get fiber.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It sucks to even be in partial agreement with the broligarchs, but as a rural American, I have zero sympathy for this fuckhead or anyone else involved in the broadband fund.

The government has been pouring money into broadband expansion for decades, and for decades, internet providers have been sopping up that money while doing exactly nothing to actually earn it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

in rural areas they dont have much choices, but in the west we have non-atat,xfinity, TWC, and verizon at least.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, we could tell them to pay back the money, or force them to make upgrades. But, its easier to just award contracts to starlink.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

We certainly can't make them pay the money back. That could affect executive bonuses and stock plans as well corporate stock buybacks to drive up stock prices! Won't you think of the executives! ^/s^

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck Elon, but also fuck Comcast.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah there aren't any good guys to root for here.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There is absolutely a far lesser of two evils here, though.

Comcast sucks, but they’re not actively dismantling our institutions.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wouldn't 4G make more sense for most rural locations, its not like its a single house with nothing for 1000 miles in all directions

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

To the users yes, or coax(DOCSIS), how they get to the Internet doesn't really matter, the challenge for rural communities is how they connect to the urban networks(backhaul).

A lot of rural towns are actually serviced by wireless point to point radios. They have some impressive throughput capabilities but nowhere near what fiber can provide. Also, they are affected by environmental factors like weather or wildlife (https://youtu.be/cZkAP-CQlhA)

ISPs don't really want to spend millions of dollars to run fiber through mountains to service a town of 4 or 5 thousand people, it would be a poor investment, this is where government programs like above can be useful in then allowing that town or region to have better Internet.

They can probably make the argument that starlink is cheaper but it's not a long term solution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

It's so rural in my area that you will not get cell signals out here. 4g isn't an option. The best we can get is either satellite or 1mb dsl.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I'm in a rural town (less than 2k population), and we still have fucking DSL offerings available. It's wild. 4G expanded out here right before covid, but it's still really spotty and there's too many users for the tower's broadband, so it's actually kinda slow.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Regardless of the obvious moneygrab corruption, It's not like the fiber program was ever going to work in the first place as long as private ISP's were involved.

Fiber backbone got installed along 25 miles of rural county highway out in the valley my parents live in. The company paid to do it marks the area as "service coming soon".
That was in 2018. The fiber is still dark with all the distribution boxes empty and not hooked up to anything, the only other options being $110/mo DSL in a very few select spots, a local mountaintop microwave wireless service that is basically turned off from November until April, or Starlink... and I'm guessing it'll forever remain that way until the coming collapse of the USA.

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