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Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

We have that here too. FlyingSquid comes to mind.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

idk about you but psychologically i never chceckef my ksrma scote but still pay some attention to how an individual comment/submission is perceived. cuz i took the time to write it and it's cool if people like/understand it and it's "important" if they dont (at least important to my rat brains)

as a departure from this mentality, i will not edit the typos

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I liked my karma back on my old reddit account (before being banned from supporting Luigi), but that is because I had the account for 12 years and invested too much time into it.

So far I'm enjoying the laid back nature of lemmy. Hopefully there will be more engagement, maybe some UI updates too. But overall I'm liking the switch. The conversations and posts feel more real.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 13 hours ago (13 children)

Oh my sweet summer child. EVERY new service and SocMed site starts out like this. Fresh, fun, and working properly. Until the masses show up. That's when it goes to shit.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

The lack of karma is definitely a plus. Zionist trolls can downvote all they want, no one cares. In fact, there isn’t much of an incentive for any to invest in “downvote farms”.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

"Karma" is just a counter of a user's recieved votes. It still exists on lemmy, most clients just choose to not display it.

Also where is this "value content" supposed to be?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Our value comes from our superior bean-based posting economy.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

I did count my likes from some top liked comments or posts of mine before. It kinda feels the same as karma, to me.

I'd say that people always find some way to get addicted to something, in whatever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't Karma essentially just the delta between upvotes and downvotes you get with some sort of weighting thrown in?

Because you can very much get that delta on here, it just isn't visible in the default Lemmy interface. If you look at your account through an Mbin frontend for example you can see the "Reputation points" value in the sidebar: https://fedia.io/u/@[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Lemmy still relies on upvotes for ranking the feed, so, farming them makes sense, it's just isolated per each post.

And I believe the issue might get worse as Lemmy grows. The reason Reddit came up with karma and all that is because the more people you have on your platform, the more baddies you have to account for.

For now, Lemmy is small enough for a basic interpersonal reputation to mostly just work, but as it grows, we need something else. Presumably, not karma.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Piefed implements an "attitude" system which tracks up vote ratio and a few other simple metrics mods can use to identify bad actors

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Nice! The more I hear about Piefed, the more I am inclined to check it out

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Can you explain what you mean with farming upvotes makes sense? There is no part of the algorithm that takes into account how many upvotes the OP recently got, or is there?

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy is small enough, that without even seeing a karma total, some users have an unofficial "rapport", where I've seen them around enough to recognize whether they are the type to go against the grain, a perpetual troll, or a usually reasonable person with an unusually spicy take.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago

Yeah it's got that old forum type feel still.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Visible post and comment scores are still going to produce some of this behavior. You may not have a total karma but people will still get dopamine from seeing their posts getting upvotes and be reinforced in doing the same again. So the same mechanisms of social pressure and uniformisation are at play. The worst being when people delete their minority opinion comments because of the downvote pressure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Meh, I'll leave down voted posts. It's the mods around here who don't seem to want to leave them up.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

Really? I have like 15 meme communities blocked, and there are comparably very few niche communities.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 21 hours ago (19 children)

Yeah, lemmy suffers a lot of from this. Too many posts that try to just make the front page, too many popular communities that dominate c/all. I've even had a friend quit over this.

I genuinely miss communities about games, linguistics and niche hobbies - they just aren't as popular as news/politics/general memes and that. I do try to post them as much as i can, but since they're niche there's only so much content you can find.

I'd love for the frontpage to have some [optional, ofc] changes that encourage more of this type of content.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

That’s right! I said good shit in tech posts that was worth upvoting so others can see. Then there was an bad comment I wrote in patientgaming that deserved the downvotes and not worth reading.

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