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Moscow comes under 'massive' drone attack leaving civilians killed and three injured (www.dailymail.co.uk)

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Russia has been bombarded in the biggest Ukrainian drone attack of the war, Moscow officials have said, on the same day as crunch talks are set to be held between Kyiv and the United States.

The Russian Defence Ministry said air defences shot down 337 Ukrainian drones over 10 Russian regions overnight, a record high, as Ukraine hit back at a series of brutal recent attacks launched by Moscow.

At least one Russian civilian has been killed and several injured, with dramatic footage showing fires raging from the exploding drones including in high rise residential buildings near Moscow.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

Having been to both countries, and made friends in both countries, this whole war really hurts to see. I hate the Russian government, but the Russian people don't deserve this any more than the Ukrainian people deserve being invaded. I can't give an opinion on how strategically "necessary" this was in the eyes of Ukrainian military leadership, but it's sad all the same.

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[+] [email protected] -18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is what always happens when we stop arming/funding right-wing extremist groups. They make things a million times worse.

Zelenskyy would rather start WW3 than hold elections. Completely psychotic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

How can you all contort yourself into a pretzel to somehow make Zelensky the bad guy? It’s like you forgot who and how this was started.

Which portion of your country would you give up to an invading country?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

texas and florida

edit: better yet, all the red states from the last election

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

nothing about this or ukraine's situation is fair.

nato is a threat to russia, ukraine was fooled into thinking that they could join nato so the russians responded like how americans responded to cuba or mexico, or agentina, or chile when they tried to join the russians or peru or bolivia or paraguay when they try to join china.

russia and nato are dominant powers for now and like all dominant powers in the past; they get to dictate what other countries can and can't do; it's all totally unfair and contortions aren't needed to understand this fact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

ukraine was fooled into thinking that they could join nato

What utter bullshit.

Ukraine has avoided joining nato as a part of the Budapest treaty with Russia the us and uk.

Until russia attacked Ukraine had no intention or hope of joining nato.

None of these Russian properganda excuses change the one clear fact.

Russia broke that treaty when they attacked not the Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

NATO will give Ukraine security. Ukraine will make the alliance stronger.

Volodymyr Zelensky, President of Ukraine

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

They gave up their entire country to the west when they allowed the US to overthrow their government in the 2014 Maidan Coup. Then they let NATO place troop & missile deployments at the Russian border, in violation of multiple different agreements (Zelenskyy said he supported these agreements to get elected), and now Russia understandably wants a large buffer zone to prevent this from happening again (and protect the ethnic Russians who were being targeted by the Ukrainian far-right).

News flash: no one who refuses to hold elections, and who bans opposition parties & media, is ever the good guy.

But I understand that y’all want this proxy war to continue til the last Ukrainian, and don’t understand how dangerous it is to escalate with a nuclear superpower. Not sure how the drone attacks are supposed to convince them they don’t need a buffer zone, but that’s the level of strategizing we’ve come to expect from the Ukrainian government.

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