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Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Monday that Ukraine would have to make concessions over land that Russia had taken since 2014 as part of any agreement to end the war.

Mr. Rubio spoke as he was flying to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, for talks with senior Ukrainian officials, and 10 days after a contentious White House meeting between President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. The Trump administration halted military aid to Ukraine after the blowup, which centered on Mr. Trump’s refusal to include any security guarantees in a proposed deal involving Ukraine’s natural resources.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I miss the good old ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

If someone breaks into your house, kicks your dog and rapes your wife, you don’t negotiate to let them keep your TV. You shoot that fucker between the eyes. That’s what we need to be doing.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I miss the good old ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

Pretty sure that was only a thing in movies.

We negotiate with terrorists all the time.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

US literally funds terrorists, gives them weapons, and gives them CIA training to do terrorism. It's like all these terrorist leaders went to the same school, of Americas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Ken: Colonel, the guy you bagged is Dr. Amir Teraki, Pakistani. PhD in Astrophysics, educated at Harvard.

Colonel Tom Devoe: That's right, people. We educated half the world's terrorists.

The Peacemaker wasn't that well received but that line stuck with me.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

That US never existed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago

it did in the movies, in here lies the problem.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't see any peace deal unless there is security guarantees, it is not peace without guarantees.

This just embolden russia to rape Ukraine again for more lands. Marco Rubio is promoting a forever war.

Ukraine guarantees were taken away when the nukes were taken away.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Why do you put stock in security guarantees now?

Ukraine had security "guarantees" when Russia invaded because they gave up their nukes that Western nation have not followed through on.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Memorandum was not really a guarantee. NATO is more of a guarantee, nukes are more of a guarantee. Guarantee means NATO and/or Nukes.

Don't need to believe it will work, Nukes and NATO has worked in the past to maintain peace along russia borders.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Security garantee is only worth as much as the nation giving it wants to honour it.

With this president is meaningless

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Without security guarantees, this isn't a "peace" deal, it's a capitulation and an invitation for future aggression from Russia.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I hope Ukraine doesn’t cede anything at all.

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[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep, it's treason. And it's not just one guy.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don’t see any peace deal happening that doesn’t involve ceding territory.

That said if I were Zelenskyy I would tell the US to pound sand and find someone else to mediate a more favourable deal, maybe Türkiye.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

Türkiye would love to be the nation that resolves this.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Says the same guys who called Putin the victim while talking with Zelensky...

[–] [email protected] 255 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Someone should invade Rubio's house and demand the deed to one of his rooms before they'll leave.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Rubio is a snowflake bitch. As bad as Americans are right now, we're going to eat him in 2-3 years. Stay strong! Slava Ukraine!

[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FUCK YOU LITTLE MARCO

shithead.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Has he proved his citizenship?

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Turns out, Russia doesn't want to concede anything and demanded more Ukrainian land. Well, we tried. Clearly, it's high time for Ukraine to stop getting in the way of peace."

  • Little Marco in a week
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

"we've tried nothing and we're already out of ideas"

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 day ago (3 children)

At the rate we're going, I wouldn't be surprised if trump drops all sanctions against Russia, and starts even funding them and providing them US weapons and Intel. I just wouldn't be surprised.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I would assume they're getting the Intel already. The entire administration is comprised of Russian assets and useful idiots. Even if the info isn't being handed to them directly, all the existing security is being ripped to shreds and the teams that would counter any threats have officially been told to ignore Russia completely.

That said, I wouldn’t put it past Trump to publicly give Intel to Russia, but only because he's an idiot and assuming there is a low he won't sink to his always a losing bet.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Why would Ukraine be negotiating with another adversary? That’s like a boxer going to the wrong corner after the round, that guy also wants you to get your ass kicked.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Likely true if we're being real but... You don't say that outloud you incompetent fucking negotiator.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Ukraine is winning. That's why Trump has stopped supporting them on request from Putin.

If your news isn't telling you Ukraine are currently stronger on the battlefield, change news outlets.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

His mom must cede territory in any piece deal

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

they are ok with ceding Texas...

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What a massive piece of shit

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