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Rule #2 is possibly our most important one:

Be respectful. Everyone should feel welcome here.

Learn to disagree without being rude or disrespectful.

It can be difficult sometimes, since western social media thrives on collective outrage, and they knowingly ingrain this into us for years. But please do adhere to this rule, and it will make this place much more enjoyable.

We will not hesitate to issue temp bans (usually a day or two) for those who make everyone's experience unpleasant.Hit the report button if you see this behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"YOU" are not your argument. Disagreement is not an attack on you as an individual and should not be taken as such.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this! I hope we stay such a friendly and open-minded community where one doesn't have to fear to say/write their thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good luck with that. Knowing were the exodus has come from. We can start vetting the new users but this is not proven effective.

Malicious reporting can also become a problem if we start being trigger happy on banning users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Lots of redditors are coming out of echo-chambers. In fact most of reddit has become one starting from a suffocating top-down control.

They've forgotten how Reddit used to be and so are astounded at how "uncomfortable" Lemmy is given its NON-pyramid like structure.

The discomfort is how the world and free speech needs to be and I'm a non-white Muslim typing this.

None of us is 100% right so we should always be exposed to other POVs and question ourselves to keep ourselves in check and evolve in objective ways.

I hope Lemmy keeps it this way and the money doesn't corrupt things as it always does. Believe you me, advertisers and nefarious actors are already reaching out to Lemmy authors to do exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good advice for life outside in the real world as well whenever possible. You can disagree without going thrermonuclear.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could we also have a rule saying that downvotes should not be used for disagreements? Downvotes should be meant for off-topic, or factually incorrect content. Disagreements should be debated in the comments, respectfully of course.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While I personally never downvote anyone for disagreeing, I don't think it's possible, or desirable, to try to create rules around how people use their preference buttons.

But I def suggest going into your settings and hiding vote scores, as that's psychologically better for most people.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think it’s possible, or desirable, to try to create rules around how people use their preference buttons.

I also don't think it's possible to actually end mean-spirited disagreement in internet comment sections, but it's a valuable thing to strive for as a value and emphasize, like you did in this post.

I think the same can be said for group-downvoting and stalking threads to downvote people based on what side they take without engaging with the substance of what is said. Minority viewpoints that add information are probably the most needed thing, and if anything I would say group downvoting is worse here than reddit on certain topics, unfortunately.

I think the attention spans are better here, and many/most things are better here but this is a sore spot.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've encountered some people who are not so... respectful with disagreements. I've made use of the report feature, however, it doesn't seem to be of much use.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

you haven't been entirely respectful in your disagreements either come on now