What about a fee for every X install like Unity?
this post was submitted on 18 Sep 2023
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So what is a tweet supposed to be called now? A Xext or something?
In all seriousness, it's just called a post now. Elon threw away the incredible brand recognition of "Tweet," the noun/verb that every tech company wants. It's like if Google stopped wanting people to use their name as a verb and just go with the generic "search" term.
an X-cretion.
So I mean, if this was in lieu of data collection and tracking, this is what more of the software world should actually do. Running platforms isn’t free, and making the user the product is a malicious and unsustainable solution.
That said, I certainly wouldn’t pay Twitter - I think I’d rather donate to a Mastodon instance, or pay for some other private alternative. Musk is awful for so many reasons, holds way too much power, and deserves no money of mine.
if this was in lieu of data collection and tracking
I guarantee this isn't in lieu of, it's in conjunction with.
Yup. You can see this kind of stuff happening with ads in things you buy.
There was a model of "ad supported" and "pay to own"
But some exec figured out you could do both and double dip.
There is no world in which things get more consumer friendly unless it's forced
This is one way to finally get rid of Twitter. I wonder if Spez is considering charging for Reddit?
I know it is a popular sentiment that people should migrate to Mastodon, but I personally think people will migrate wherever the people they follow migrate to.
With this in mind, I suspect Bluesky will be the platform to usurp Twitter; but with Twitter chasing off all their users in the near future, it may go to whichever platform is readily open at the time.
I'm very curious to see if Bluesky or Spill open up when Twitter closes the door on its users. If not, Mastodon may have a shot at being the next large platform...
Why Bluesky when there is ecosystem of dozens community-baked and deployed apps?
Is bluesky up yet? I'd assume everyone will just go to bluesky anyway.
Yes, but it's invite-only. Either you join the wait-list and get lucky, or someone gives you an invite (members get an invite to hand out to friends every 10 days or so). Amusingly this has resulted in a large chunk of blüski being furry and LGBT, due to how tightly knit the communities are. I know a lot of the furry discord servers I've been in regularly have people openly offering invites, whereas most of the non-furry servers seem to be completely unaware of how active it is or that it even exists (my experience is that blüski feels way more active than Twitter due to it not giving preferential treatment to Elon shills; you're far more likely to have random people seeing your posts).
The biggest problem with Bluesky is it's owned by another musk.
He's not great, but that's an exaggeration
Not an exaggeration.
Until it isn't. The platform is still single-tracked through an unaccountable billionaire.
Please do it fast.
I fucking dare him to follow through. Please do it. Don't wuss out Elon!
Should we all go make twitter accounts and say how great of an idea this is?
Moving to a user supported service IS a good way to cut down on spam and wrest control from advertisers...
...IF you do it before you destroy all value, branding, community and cultural relevance
As so many others have said, this move at this point sounds like he's trying to finally end this fiasco.
He's too much of a pussy to actually do it, we all know this.
Quick, tell him that on Twitter! Maybe he'll actually do it and we'll finally be rid of his godawful grandstanding.
Imagine thousands of people not succeeding in crashing a megacorp on purpose, and then one rich guy crashing it just by being stupid
I hope he buys reddit next
I think he should seriously consider buying Meta so that we can watch it crash and burn just like Xitter. Facebook is the cancer of the internet and it deserves to go too.
Unfortunately, Twitter was only up for sale because it wasn’t able to effectively monetize. On the other hand, Meta has figured out how to make money hand over fist.
I think the easiest route to get Musk to own Meta is if we goaded him + Zuck into a pay per view fist fight over ownership of Meta.
Twitter was profitable in the years before covid. They made a net income of $1.2 billion in 2018.
They made a slight (compared to their revenue) loss during the pandemic, presumably because advertisers generally were willing to spend less, but they were still earning more than enough - simply cut a few costs and they'd be profitable again. Or just wait for the market to improve since from the sounds of it they had more than enough savings to ride it out (that appeared to be their plan).
They didn't sell to Musk because they were desperate, they sold to Musk because he signed a contract guaranteeing he would pay far more than the company was worth. If I owned a house that was worth a million dollars, and someone offered me ten million, hell yeah would I sell that house even if I wasn't really interested in selling.
I really hope this happens. It already was dying, but this would be the final nail in the coffin for the stubborn users who are still on there for some reason. Clearly Twitter Blue has been failing.
He should totally do it and charge per post as well.
Do iiiiiiiiit
That would finish off Twitter instantly.
He's not THAT dumb. Right guys?
....right??
why does he look like that
Fuckin do it, Elon. Double dog dare ya.
Sounds like a great idea!
I mean, not for Xitter, but for the internet as a whole it would be amazing!
One of the richest people in the entire world wants still more money. Tell me again how "trickle-down economics" works?
He's the wealthiest man in the world. That doesn't mean he has a lair full of cash and just wants more. People really struggle to understand the difference between wealth and money in the bank. This isn't about hoarding money just for the sake of it.
I understand the difference, but he's collecting stuff just because it's shiny. He's short of cash because he has no impulse control, and I fail to see why he shouldn't fail the same way other people who overextend themselves fail.
What makes you think he's short on cash? Wealthy people don't store their wealth in cash anyways. The money is tied to the stocks of the companies they're running. That's why he needed to lend the money for twitter too; he doesn't have that kind of cash, but people are willing to borrow it to him because of his wealth.
If you just had read the article you'd see that they have lost 50% of the advertisers and are losing money. This isn't about wanting more money just for the sake of it. No company can exist if their finances are on the negative.
And yet here they are...
What are you saying?
You aren't going to tell me Musk doesn't have some cash laying around.
Is he just supposed to pay for the running of twitter out of his pocket or what? It says there they've lost 50% of advertisers, and are making negative profit. That isn't sustainable. The purchase of twitter has cost him 40-something billion, and still keeps costing him even more. It's not about just wanting more profit, but to atleast break even.
It's a self inflicted wound. Can't bring myself to care.