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[–] [email protected] 68 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Obviously a very progressive/inclusive decision, this person is as Japanese as living in Japan for 20 years can get you, the "controversy" is ridiculous and quite frankly racist, would be like if someone an ethincally Asian UK citizen won miss UK and then got accused of pushing an Eastern standard of beauty in an ethnically Anglo-Celtic-etc nation.

You have to be such a asshole to read

“I’ve had to face barriers that often prevent me from being accepted as Japanese, so I am filled with gratitude to be recognized at this competition as a Japanese person,” she said.

And then comment it's kinda fucked up she won this contest (as literally the first naturilzed person to do so) they should have given it to someone ethnically Japanese etc etc.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

would be like if someone an ethincally Asian UK citizen won miss UK and then got accused of pushing an Eastern standard of beauty in an ethnically Anglo-Celtic-etc nation.

I mean that is happening all the time. Especially if the winner is black. So the controversy isn't new. It's still racist and stupid.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The only way these things can stay relevant. Beauty pageants are so fucking cringe and should be deleted in their entirety.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Beauty pageants are so fucking cringe and should be deleted in their entirety.

Yeah, they are cringe, but these are adults, not children. It's the same as a bodybuilder competition, as far as I'm concerned. Not for me, but as long as people aren't getting hurt, it's just entertainment. Just keep the kids out of it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m not loving the ethnic fears coming from their slippery slope fallacy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But if we let this happen, what's stopping an anime character winning the competition? Or a cat? Or robot? Where do we draw the line?!?

On second thoughts, a cat would be pretty awesome. They'll at least dominate the catwalk part of the competition.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

what’s stopping an anime character winning the competition?

Literally nothing, as VTubers have proven.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Any of those options would make me significantly more interested.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Controversial among weebs and white racists maybe. I can't find any prominent Japanese publication or talking head decrying the decision.

The article tries to weasel its way out by saying "inside and outside of Japan" but it seems to be mostly people writing in English on Instagram who are riled up about it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pretending Japan isn't still incredibly xenophobic is quite the hill to die on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Why are you putting words in my mouth you weirdo.

Either give me a source that has a prominent Japanese publication or a talking head decrying the decision or stay put.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I wonder what percentage of the people writing in English about it are kids and creepy guys who use their alt account to post about being an Anime character stuck in a white person's body.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The netuyo are probably whinging about it, but I stay away from those corners of the internet. Osaka Naomi and others have faced issues as well. Mostly, from what I remember, it's been sports competitions where this comes up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Naomi Osaka definitely sparked a convo about whether she was Japanese enough to represent Japan, but she hasn't lived in the country since she was three.

The exact opposite of what's going on with Carolina, the model in question.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah, the weird terminally online hard right-wingers, the netouyo, are big mad about it. And they can stay mad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Link me the 5ch thread so that I can laugh with you!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Well yeah Japan is like the most racist country on the planet after Israel