I'm disappointed...I tried to not care about this CEO supporting Trump, but come on...now they ditch Mastodon, tomorrow they close source their clients...I'm losing trust to them, I used to think about them as knights in this capitalist world, but well. As someone once said "You either live and die as a legend, or live long enough to become evil". I don't want it to happen but yeah, I guess we all gotta find a good replacement for Proton services, sad but it is what it is.
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Of all the fuckin places to move to they chose reddit π
Because they can control the dialog on reddit
Aww, is someone booty blasted they can't control the dialog no more?
I switched to StartMail, I'm officially done with ProtonMail. Are you even kidding me, how just how...
What did they keep?
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Ditches fediverse but still use Xitter?
On top of the trump apointee praise?
Sus π
Thatβs not sus, thatβs what anyone ought to expect him to do, because it aligns with his bourgeois interests. Why would he stay on a non-corporate, federated social media platform when he and his bourgeois peers canβt control the narrative?
This is very disappointing.
They have a large following on Mastodon so this doesn't really make much sense. I'm inclined to believe that they left due to the hate they were getting because of the recent controversy.
I think this is right on the money.
Yeah. They can't get Mastodon moderators to suppress negative publicity like they can on Reddit and other platforms.
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So Proton ditched Mastodon but is still on Twitter, aka the Nazi cesspool, and Reddit. Both US propaganda platforms with heavy censorship.
Bad, bad move.
I have been defending Andy Yen's idiotic comments because he's not American and doesn't understand the hyper-reactive nature between US Americans and US politics (because our government is literally run by nazis now), but this decision isn't helping; it will fuel and reinforce the negative image already held by those who have canceled their accounts and those who are on the fence.
I have been defending Andy Yenβs idiotic comments because heβs not American and doesnβt understand the hyper-reactive nature between US Americans and US politics
And I could see the point, kind of, even though it strained credulity on substance. He seemed more confused to me than die-hard partisan. But it's really hard to square what was effectively a blanket statement endorsing R's with his subsequent comment that it "was not intended to be a political statement" (paraphrase).
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I need to migrate away from Proton ASAP.
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And now Iβve ditched Proton. Andy Yenβs comments made me skeptical, but I was still confident that their mission was intact. This move, to a social media platform with a demonstrated willingness to censor non-corporatist views, confirms my fears that they are giving up their principles.
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Iβm seriously starting to consider moving from proton to Fastmail. My renewal is coming up in May.
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I have Proton email and will ditch it soon.
@ramenu .... proton recommending communication through reddit was not on my bingo card. 2025 has already been a wild ride... *looks at date*
fml
That's in line with being from Switzerland. Act cool, but be sure to stick with the richer people and do their interest. Never used Proton (I use Tuta instead) for that reason only. You are free to call me racist.
Some of the initial people involved did their university and post grad studies in the US, so they seem more American than Swiss to me and more chose Switzerland to conduct business after starting the company up after meeting at CERN.
Tuta isnt really a replacement for proton. They dont even support PGP encryption, which is kinda the whole point of proton.
Tuta uses standard algorithms also being used by PGP (AES and RSA or ECC) for encrypting the entire mailbox. In addition, Tuta Mail already uses post-quantum cryptography (Kyber) for quantum safe accounts, which is still a work in progress for PGP. Furthermore, Tuta does not use an implementation of PGP itself because PGP lacks important requirements that we have for Tuta
Read the last sentence. They dont use PGP for emails.
Find me how you can send PGP emails to someone off tuta. You can't. They disabled it.
With proton its one click.
They give a reason.
And, if this is what we are talking about, sending a PGP email to a non Proton still requires more than one click and agreement equal, in my experience, to sharing a password for encrypted emails on Tuta.
Proton has an API for getting the PGP keys of all their users. I can send any proton user an encrypted email, and I attach my public key to the email (Thunderbird does this by default).
Then the user only has to click the "trust key" button and all their future emails will be encrypted to my PGP key. It's 1 click for them.
Tutanota has no way to do this. I read why, but its nonsense. PGP for e2ee is better than no e2ee. Tuta is naked and not a replacement for proton.
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I so want to ditch Proton right now, but I have a lot of resumes out and have been using them for ~4 years, so all of my accounts are linked in a sense.
What to do what to do.. I know and fully agree that what's going on is sus, but I think I need to stick with it for a few more months until the job thing pans out.
Edit: I have a free Tuta account, I'll start weaning everything off, then cut free when I don't need to worry about missing an interview opportunity.
I recommend switching to a custom domain in the future so you can avoid situations like this from happening again, this way you won't be locked down onto a single provider.
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Why
because their ceo came out as fascist and mastodon is calling them out.
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