Fediverse

ability to silence, and censor or criticism,?-proton probably

A human being.

i disagree as there are plenty of tools to post to multiple platforms at once. but yea if they were so kind to actually interact then yes

I'm not, they are a bunch of researchers having their servers in the country with the most privacy protective laws in the world.

Sure, criticise them when they do bad things, but what do you propose, google mail (etc.)?

If you don't have some real information you are just following a gut feeling (which by the way is the simplest to manipulate) and I think that is kind of curious actually.

I like Proton, I have their email & VPN, works like a charm, and their servers are in nuke safe bunkers in the swiss mountains.

The only other company that I have seen that isn't shady like for sure seems to be Mullvad, I mean if you hate the swiss or something or prefer the swedes ...

Something has always felt off. Swiss security is always a red flag, and free is never truly free. Don't really know who you can trust at this point. Everything seems to turn to shit as some point or another.

Use Disroot

Everyone recommends Tuta in these threads.

I just (finally) had a look at their pricing. Seems egregiously expensive? 6EUR / user / month for their cheapest business plan is a bit nuts

I just set up a paid account on Tuta today replacing my paid Proton account.

I'm searching for a safe and cheap alternative for my own domain, but it's hard! And I don't want to give money to American companies.

Idc if I likes Trump or not (even though Trump is garbage); but I do care that he says the Republicans - the party that has spent years attacking encryption and privacy, who has sued to obtain private medical records of women and trans people who see doctors, and who is funded by billionaire big tech moguls - is the better option for privacy.

Also just taking ANY position for a leader of the US - one of the biggest parties to the Five Eyes agreement - just leaves a bad taste.

Yea this is worse. The politics thing could be brushed off as Andy Yen being uneducated on American politics. Moving away from an already established fediverse platform is contradictory to Proton's mission. It doesn't take more than a minute to copy paste their xitter posts to Mastadon.

And I’d have thought the potential customers segment are exactly the Mastodon users.

I think the reason is that every time they post something, someone there points out the Andy Yen thing. Thats basically the only comments. So its detrimental to their business.

It's a sad day when "you can find us over on Discord" is a better option.

I use Bitwarden coming from LastPass. It's great for me and my fam.