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Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton's trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.
I've been giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm kinda done with them. Anyone have any suggestions for a mail provider? I'm not yet willing to self-host that.
I've been happy with mailbox.org. I left proton after the boot licking. I had been a paying customer for years.
It's as if with each passing day, Proton wakes up and chooses to wear a slightly different red flag for a cape than the one they wore yesterday. I'm obviously being hyperbolic here, but I'm also a bit upset with myself for having decided to get an annual subscription with them last November.
I've heard good things about Mullvad for VPN and Tuta for mail. I've got my own domain that I can start using with whatever mail host I land on.
I'm in the U.S. What other mail providers are people using, and what other VPN providers should I be considering?
Guess I made the right choice to leave Proton.
Looks like Tuta’s getting my business now.
Unfortunately, they lock you in. If they decide the AfD is their best friend, you can't get the emails out of their system because they don't have an email export function...
Funny how they didn’t make actual post on Mastodon, but just silently edited their profile to say they left Mastodon? That’s pretty cowardly.
Yet another reason to not like Proton.
Makes me glad that I procrastinated on switching over, I guess I’ll just ride out my current NordVPN subscription and switch over to Mullvad?
Almost makes me afraid to ask the community, what exactly is wrong with Nord? 😅
Unless you never want to torrent, I would say to not use mullvad, you can't forward a port with them (same with NordVPN). There are plenty of VPNs that don't log and allow port forwarding. I use AirVPN.
At least they are still on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me
But a true fediverse presence would be better
Bluesky is not much better than X despite it claiming to
It's... better in the sense that you don't have right wing weirdos all over the place. But technically? Organizationally? Feels like we're on track to replay the same exact shit over again. It feels like people just aren't learning the lessons they should from the Twitter takeover.
Bluesky can be taken over by a billionaire. The fediverse cannot. Bluesky is just another Musk waiting to happen.
Why do you keep adding that license to all your posts? You're like those boomers on Facebook that fell for that "Facebook doesn't own my photos cause I say so" meme.
No AI is gonna pay attention to whatever this is.
Bluesky is WAY better than Twitter. It's still vulnerable to the same issues Twitter is, but someplace with no nazis is always going to be better than someplace with nazis.
Can you even use Reddit if you’re running Proton’s VPN? I know Reddit has been actively blocking other VPNs (eg Mullvad) for some time.
Yes they have a stealth feature that is helpful for detecting a VPN
If you're looking to shake up your email provider in the wake of this, I highly recommend getting a custom domain name, whatever provider you choose. Cloudflare sells domains at cost. Get a not-embarrasing .com of your own, and then you can move email providers in future without losing continuity. Proton allows exporting .eml files, which you can then import into your next provider. Or just keep in cold storage and declare email bankruptcy. Once you have a custom domain, you can use unique emails for all your services by setting up a catchall address. This will at least impede credential stuffing attacks, and let you know who sold/leaked your address if you do get spam.
I personally left Proton a month or so ago after the last bit of drama, in part out of principle, but also because their offering is just really expensive for my use case: I just want email, on a budget, with reasonable privacy. Plus I was tired of not having IMAP support and being locked into their clients. Moved to a Zoho business account (for now) and have been happy for the $12/yr. I already had a domain name, but they typically run <$20/year too.
I wish VPS providers didn't commonly block email ports. Self hosting seems like the only way to stay in control
It's understandable though, they just don't want to deal with email spammers.
Ugh, I use proton for VPN and email. Any suggestions for decent VPN at this point?
I've used Mullvad for a couple of years now and they're great.
Unless you never want to torrent, I would not choose mullvad. Torrenting requires port forwarding if you properly want to give back to the community, which mullvad doesn't support.
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Proton is a CIA honeypot episode 978.
Good bye privacy.
I can see a company not wanting to invest resources in a social media platform without critical mass. But for a company that itself is trying to gain critical mass, moving away from a similarly situated privacy focused platform is idiotic. It signals to potential Proton users that the company cannot be trusted and it’s very hard to recover from that.
Yeah fuck proton