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Vance eviscerates 'Soviet'-style European censorship in address to Munich Security Conference (www.foxnews.com)

submitted 6 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The whole meeting was about ending the war on Ukraine without giving in to ruzzia, and to talk about Europe spending more in defense ( which would benefit the US defense industry, and US workers) but couchfucker went on a pointless off-topic rant like a weird uncle at Thanksgiving. It was entirely for US media consumption so Americans can be proud the vice presidents being tough on those dang ole European panseys.

And look! Many very stupid people are eating it up. Don't be fooled by that bullshit, it's all theatre.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Right, the other wing of the uniparty didn't benefit the US defense industry by arming nazi Azov and other scum?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, yes you are 100% right. It is effortless to make a moral case against the defense industry as a whole and against the corporate-money worshipping, genocide participant right-of-center liberal democrats in specific, and I am not here to defend either of those.

And yes, we know the Ukrainians are not all angels. There no reason to doubt the accusations of nazism and human rights violations against the azov brigade. But interesting- Azov gets brought up so much in ruzzian propaganda, it seems funny to focus on during a discussion of the bullshit antics of the US vice president.

The point here is that during a meeting to discuss the defence of Ukranian civilians against a foe that bombed a maternity and children's hospital as one of the first things on their to-do list, Vance goes off on a unhinged tirade about free speech.

The point here is that our neighbors and relations are being so easily tricked by this theatre- they say "Oh gosh he tells it like it is!"

The point is, no he's not.

Even for those who think that other nations purchasing US-made military equipment and armaments, thereby contributing the the US economy and creating jobs and opportunities for American citizens (remember part of the agenda for this meeting was to talk about Europe defense spending) is a good thing, well sorry! Vance undermined that too.

I don't want anyone to read that "article" and think: Gee! He makes some good points! Because he doesn't.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I bring up Azov to show the other side also supports the worst of the worst. And has relevance to this Munich farce. And Azov is OC a symbol. Maybe I should've chosen any of the other 8 nazi batallions they have like Sich, Tornado... After all Azov updated their wolfsangel logo so they totally stopped being fascist. If ony Hitler had've thought of that with the swastika. Also you may want to stop using "Ruzzia" as it makes you look stupid and I expect that on Reddit, X or wherever these paid nafo propaganda poodles and bots are active. The same pathetic losers using "Xi bucks, +100 social credit" when they have no arguments to counter a true statement that goes against their narrative.

"a foe that bombed a maternity and children’s hospital as one of the first things on their to-do list" See that's exactly the propaganda you've been spoonfed. They have zero benefit in doing this. A clear false flag done by the Banderites. Same as the attack on the nuclear plant recently. Sure, with all the hypersonics they have the ebil Ruzzians really tried hard to blow that up using...a crappy drone. Makes as much sense as the attacking the Zaporozia plant while it's under their control. Complete garbage. And I am European, I certainly don't think we should be paying more on 'defense'. Because it's not 'defense', everything we buy in the NATO protection racket benefits the US MIC, is to fight their imperialist wars and we get to take care of the refugees. Russia is not our enemy. Despite what our sell out vasal leaders claim or possibly the fascist/racist Poles and Balts. Anyway, it doesn't matter what Vance, Trump, zelenski says or decides. Only Russia will decide what is needed for their safety. They have rightfully called the west agreement incapable since they never keep their word. From 'not one inch to the east" to the Misk accords.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh I see. A pro-russian propagandist. Ok I won't use a z for россия if it annoys you.

Well listen man, I'd be super interested to get your perspective on that Budapest memorandum thing that russia signed promising not to "threaten or use military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan..." It seems like when you break a big promise like that in a consistent, persistent, and intentional way then people (and nations) shouldn't trust you. But what do you think?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"A pro-russian propagandist" Sigh. Yes OC we know, anyone going against your regime narrative is a Russian propagandist. I got my Rubles OK?

Budapest memorandum, really? Was the extremely violent coup and the factual war on Russian speaking east and south because they didn't want to live under fascism a Russian operation? Or was it clearly a US regime change operation? So a complete non-argument.

The only country by far to break promises, treaties and international law in a consistent, persistent, and intentional way is obviously the US. Should we compare the lists?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well, I feel like you're not really addressing my question in good faith man. I am asking about a specific thing and you are pointing fingers in every other direction. Stop trying to make the case that россия is so hard done by, this is a deflection and not an actual answer.

Anyway this thing about the vice president is really 100% a domestic political issue and simply more proof that the current reĝime must be removed. Edit: and absolutely not to be replaced with democrats, thats for damned sure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

And just because I have time right now I'd like to address this:

"a foe that bombed a maternity and children’s hospital as one of the first things on their to-do list" See that's exactly the propaganda you've been spoonfed. They have zero benefit in doing this. A clear false flag done by the Banderites.

Ok firstly, On 9 March 2022, the Russian air force bombed the Maternity Hospital No. 3 in Mariupol. It was in the news. On March 10 the Russian minister of foreign affairs and ministry of defense said the bombing was justified beclause there were soldiers in there or some bullshit. Also in the news. So I don't think it was a false flag operation, since Russian government officials admitted it happened and tried to justify it.

Secondly, "Banderites". Banderites? I won't go into the history too much, but this word has been used by russians as an insult to refer to ukranian people for years. You know who talks about "banderites" all the time? Russian state media does. This is used to mean any person that thinks Ukraine is a sovereign nation separate from russia. Look it up, random reader, you'll see its true.

You don't hear French people or Portugese or Dutch or any other kind of European person say "banderite". The only people you hear using the word as a pejorative for Ukrainians is Russians.

Your language gave you away, кацапы.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

. It was in the news.>

LOL, no shit The obviously very neutral western news?

You don’t hear French people or Portugese or Dutch or any other kind of European person say “banderite”. The only people you hear using the word as a pejorative for Ukrainians is Russians.

Complete garbage. I am Belgian, and I certainly use that word since plenty of ukranians proudly adore this nazi. OC people like you who just swallow "what was in the news" will never know these facts since it's very inconvenient. They also haven't got a clue about what happened before.

Your language gave you away, кацапы.

LOL, are you five?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ok I could be wrong. If that's the case then I apologize.

But then can you explain to me why a Belgian is showing up in an community focused on American conservatives and laying out the arguements that:

Ukraine is entirely filled with nazis who attack hospitals and children just to make russia look bad
US democrats are connected to those nazis
russia is the real victim in all this

And your justification for these assertions amounts to LOL WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

Maybe you can clarify:

why don't American nazis seem to have any love for ukrane? Wouldn't they want to protect their nazi bredren?
why does it seem that you, as well our American nazis here at home, appear to repeat Russian state media talking points?
this is off topic but I have always wondered: why is Belgian national identity tied up in a sculpture of a little naked peeing boy?

Thanks for any help with these questions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

should I really talk to a bot? Can you say potato?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well I guess we're done here. Bro is mad at me and doesn't want to talk.

For anyone reading this exchange, let's just review:

Bro says "russia is not the enemy." "Russia alone determines what they need for safety. " But it doesn't seem like this all started with Russia getting attacked. It hasn't been Ukraine shooting missles into Russian civilian residential apartment buildings. Rather the other way around.

Bro says I am stupid for believing propaganda, and that may be true. Unfortunately, bro can't articulate what is the truth that I ought to believe aside from saying "false flag!" and "nazis!!". Honestly it's not making sense to me and bro is not trying to be clear with facts even when invited to do so.

I think Europeans ought to be very concerned and careful when it comes to Russia. Russia is not your friend.

Yes I can say potato thanks for asking.

Anyway let me just end this by saying GOD BLESS AMERICA!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

LOL from the shithole that sends ultramilitarised police to beat up and arrest anti-genocide protesters. Tell this shitbag and the orange clown to stay out of our business and GTFO Europe. As if blowing up Nordstream wasn't enough. Shithole terrorist country.