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streaming has a history of being data intrusive. and buying from most online stores show itemized music receipts to the credit card company (and don't typically allow giftcards). buying in person is nice, but harder to get new music.

any tips?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Surprised I haven't seen this suggested h're yet: Pirate the music and anonymously mail money to the artists directly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Or merch and concert tickets.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago

if you are really asking for new music..

Bandcamp

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I use 7Digital and HDTracks to purchase DRM free music. Neither require KYC or block VPNs. At least one uses PayPal but allows guest checkout. I use Privacy.com cards to purchase too

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I've never made an attempt at an anonymous checkout there, but Beatport.com offers a lot of lossless music I couldn't find anywhere else on-line.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

CDs, high quality, portable (after ripped), cheap

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

very interesting, thanks for sharing

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Buy CDs. Fun and affordable if your music tastes can be found in thrift stores.

See if your local record store will order in new releases or otherwise for you on CD. Mine does and it's not a very large store.

From there, rip to a computer where you either copy it to a mobile device for listening or self host your own streaming service such as Navidrome or Jellyfin.

The streaming service is easy to self host and I'd love to give more details. You can also "borrow your friend's CDs to rip them" and stream content that you didn't necessarily pay for.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

+1

In case you don't have an optical drive, new ones cost only slightly more than a CD these days.

Here's some guidance on which models are especially good at audio ripping:

https://pilabor.com/blog/2022/10/audio-cd-ripping-hardware/

(Note that the best ones cost a bit more and don't come with a USB enclosure, but could be mounted in one.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (4 children)

rip to a computer

99% of new PCs lack a CD drive.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If someone wants to put together a physical CD collection then <$50 is a small investment for a external CD drive. Thrift store CDs are cheap but it still has its costs. Streaming service subscriptions add up as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can buy a USB CD drive for relatively little cash

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Your local library may even lend one or have a machine with a drive. Probably intended for digitising stuff and writing discs from them, but if there's software, it'll work in reverse as well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You don't have to buy an entire new pc for that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

you can buy and install one yourself, or get a usb one for ~$20

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago

It is highly impractical and arbitrary to tie a digital download to a physical piece of media, especially if you have no plans to use it after ripping. Waiting until it arrives or going to a now-rare disk store, and then almost immediately either throwing into the trash or bothering to resell - neither feels good.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

I use BandCamp or HDtracks when i can't find it in the former.
If you're in the US, Privacy.com has CCs. There are some sites that over gift cards via XMR too.
Generally though, if there's a CC involved, there's almost always KYC.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Physical copies paid in cash. Get a walkman or a recordplayer lol, they go hard.

Edit: this does make newer music impossible yeah my bad. Bandcamp maybe?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Privacy from whom?

I ask because the easiest way to do what you’re asking is to have your local record store sell you shit and pay in cash (that you’ve laundered so the serial numbers don’t match the atm). You can even be like “I’m trying to get away from computers man, can you order me this off eBay?” And guaranteed if you spent a hundred bucks or so on used releases they’ll say “absolutely!”

Of course, you’ll stick out like a sore thumb and have a lie to keep up with, so you’ll not have any real measure of anonymity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yeah that's a good advice. curious, where would the "lie" be?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You’re posting in the internet right now. I suggested that you tell people you are trying to get away from computers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

ahh yeah. I do spend most of my time off line and that's one reason I don't want to use streaming services

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You’ll fit right in.

What do you like to listen to and what do you like to listen on?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

really into freestyle polka on my portable cassette player these days. you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you’re mechanically inclined and can work with small parts, the old Sony branded walkmans are generally good quality and have a decent supply of replacement parts. Some of the new portables have awful wow and flutter that will make it seem like that two step is a polyrhythm!

I listen on my phone in the world, cd and tape when I’m driving and on whatever at home. Today it was goat and escape-ism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

totally, thanks for tip on Sony. I find the older stuff to be built better so I don't mind repairing them

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Ideally one wouldn't need to pay to experience a form of art

Rather, one should first experience the art, and then if they want they could make a donation

I think that buying a CD directly from the musician at their concert or event is the only truly direct way that doesn't end up giving most of the money to monopolistic intermediary

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ideally one wouldn’t need to pay to experience a form of art

Sure.. music instruments and the electricity to feed a stage are free.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Absolutely not, I did not implying that, the post is about digital reproduction/ownership of music (if I haven't misunderstood it)

And that is, basically, free, a very "low" cost of copying bytes. What we pay on Spotify and Apple Music are not the artists, not their instruments or recording hardware or mastering software.

We pay the intermediaries.

Concerts, museums, theatres, etc, have high costs so I'm completely fine for them to cost money to the visitors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

(Oh and I believe Bandcamp is a close second)