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[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I mean, he's the expert on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

What I came here to say!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People always point to Russias use of Facebook target ads to prove this, which seems to be letting Facebook remarkably off the hook.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Classic "immigrants are taking jobs" trope

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Half of the US also believes this. The other half doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Half of the US also believes this. The other half is right.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Well, there is that Bush only probably won the 2000 election.
So there is one that was interfered with.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They started screaming "stop the count" in that one as well, but that time unfortunately were successful in doing so. Many of the rioters who attacked the counting center got nice political appointments by the Bush admin too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

Roger stone involved in both of course.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Yeah Bush almost definitely did not win that election fairly. Everything that went down in Florida is insanely sketchy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Theyre rigged in the sense that you're going to get a far right and ultra far right candidate, which is good enough for me to call US elections rigged.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

The leaders of the half that believes it know it's true because they did the rigging.

The leaders of the half that doesn't believe it also know it's true, but don't want to admit it because the first half's preemptive DARVO-ing has poisoned the rhetorical well against them. Also, admitting it would just weaken the public's faith in the validity of elections even further, playing into the other side's hands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Which half depends on who is in the White House at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

They don’t need to be rigged when there are only 2 options that are almost the same.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Acknowledging the way they actually rig elections would motivate liberals to vote further left.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Based on what I'm observing from here in Australia, they're nothing alike.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One is far right, the other ultra far right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

In what way exactly? I wasn't aware things like universal health care, and anti-guns and such were considered "far right"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Private medical monopolies is far right.

Democrats aren't anti-gun, especially not for the people shooting us with impunity.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Of course they were. Just off the top of my head I can name 1968, 1980, and 2000. That these were all years in which Republicans won the White House is a genuine coincidence though, election rigging and other actions of the capitalist class to control the state institutions are quite indifferent to political parties.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

pot, kettle, black, etc, etc

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At least Clinton wasn't pushed out of a window

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Of course he'd know, he's the expert in rigging elections

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

ITT: settlers angry that they're getting called out by a despot arguably no different than the despots they uplift on "either side" of the aisle.

Our elections are rigged-- the only people allowed to make it to the finals are racist, genocidal, war-mongering, capital-extolling, military-industrially paid-for ghouls; regardless of what color tie they wear, and it's been that way for the last 50 years. Putin is capable of being a beneficiary of the same kind of rigging on his own end and being absolutely correct about how Occupied Turtle Island is rigged.

This is the essence of critical support. Two things can be right at once, and an abject bastard who is no ally can occasionally be dead on the money.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

They still are

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

What, by him?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't you need to have brain in the first place to get brain cancer?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily - Kissinger died of heart failure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Fair enough.