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[–] [email protected] 22 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (7 children)

People really hate the idea of trains

Our rail system has been so terrible for so long that people are unable to even consider the possibility that it doesn't have to be shit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

I'd wager racism and classism don't help. "Imagine riding a train with a poor person./s"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"Not hard. You use the poor as fuel, right?"

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I love trains, but hate shitty trains. I'll gladly take a 10 hour train ride instead of a 1 hour flight. But when tens are late, cancelled, delayed by priority cargo trains, etc, it makes me hate trains...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't make me hate trains, it makes me hate the car and aviation industries for influencing governments and the general public.

In Canada trains suck in general because of all you mentioned, but I'm aware that it's caused by putting all of our money into highways, airports and the aviation industry, rather than putting a single dollar into owning and building more tracks.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

What about a 5 hour blimp ride instead

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

How about self driving buses?

Trains are really cool, but not ideal for low traffic conditions + areas requiring a lot of route flexibility. We definitely should build a lot more trains/trams than what were building right now, but self driving buses will still have a very large use case.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

No one wants a bus! That's not cool.

However, I've invented a revolutionary "shared mega limo". It's like an Uber, but with 50 seats, and optionally you can ride standing if you're sporty. It's the size of a bus, but definitely not a bus.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 17 hours ago

The trick is you do both buses and trains. You use the buses to connect communities that don't have large transit requirements between them and then for commuting you use buses to direct people to train stations where they can get the trains to work/ where they need to go en masse. Transportation is a multilevel solution that requires multiple modes to get people where they need to go but you can't just rely on buses as quite frankly they lack the ability move all that many people even across quite short distances.

Also to address the self driving part: autonomous road vehicles that can operate safely and at scale are well in the fucking magic territory of technology. If you want a proven highly autonomous travel technique that works trains have been doing it for decades.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (11 children)

which train will take me to my house?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Imagine a world without the need for a car. There's probably a train station that's in walking distance. Maybe 10-15 minutes. More than that, possibly a quick bus to the corner of your street.

In this world, the grocery store is also a 10-15 minute walk, possibly bear the station. Instead of loading up on $200 of groceries once a week, you buy a few pieces on your way to work and/or back home.

There's a nice public park, a library, and even a promenade somewhere also a short walk away. Various retail shops and service centers of all kinds (electronics, home and goods, hardware, appliances) could literally be your downstairs neighbors.

Even if all of these aren't exactly close to you or your train station, they can be a short bus or train ride away. You walk more, bike more. You have a backpack and side racks for the bike. Your health improves, and you interact more with the people of the area.

Welcome to many cities of the world, even in the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Sure our cities could be much better but you do realize there are communities in America that can't even provide reliable safe drinking water let alone an entire new infrastructure for their small, low income population? Or already overburdened underfunded system so nothing is working efficiently and just adding more to the docket?

Probably gonna get shit for this but I find the fuck cars people to be as narrow sighted and obnoxious as vegans. I love your vision, I really do. But damn I have a hard time not being exasperated every time I read a post.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Probably the u-bahn since you clearly live under a bridge.

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