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Debunk from dev Pierre-Loup Griffais ‪@plagman.bsky.social‬

"we've done pre-release Mesa Vulkan work on every AMD architecture since Vega thanks to them kindly providing hardware, so there's nothing meaningful to read into there."

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

This rumor has been going around for a few months now, mostly because of some commits targeting new unknown hardware to SteamOS afaik.

I hope the rumor is true, I love my steamdeck but something a bit more powerful that allows me to play Steam games in 4k on my TV would be awesome. If they run the same exact OS as on the steamdeck you could even do stuff like ad-free youtube using Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

but something a bit more powerful that allows me to play Steam games in 4k on my TV would be awesome.

I got news for you! You can literally build a computer to do this right now, no need to wait for steam.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I know that. I want something ready to go with a dedicated controller and not fiddle around with components myself that may run too hot or are too noisy etc.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you want some eggs? I got news for you! You can literally build a chicken shed right now, no need to wait for farmers.

Seriously, the same captain obvious answer all the time when a Steam console is mentioned. It’s infuriating. Consoles exist for a reason, to provide a ready and verified environment for playing games without any fiddling.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Can I build a chicken? That's the real question..

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Please don't fuck a chicken

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's also been some arm SoC work by valve, could be they're gearing up for a new SteamStation, could be that they're opening up SteamOS for 3rd party manufacturers like Lenovo. Only time will tell.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

The ARM SoC work is likely for a VR headset to rival the Meta Quest line. Valve isn't going to build a console-like PC without an x86 processor in it any time soon until x86 emulators like FEX and Box86 become more advanced and faster.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Steam Machine 3: This time it's personal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Instead of the Electric Boogalo, it's the Steam Dreamaroo.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I think I'm part of steam machine's target market. Games are leisure time. I don't want to be worrying about processor-graphics cards combos. I don't want to worry about which game runs, or optimising settings. I want to turn it on and have fun.

Sadly, I've been in emulating recently just to get away from micro transactions so I have to spend a lot of time tinkering. First mini pc that flawlessly runs 360/PS3 and is less than £500 I'm getting it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

You’ll have a long way to go on the software side before worrying about hardware

Like you said though, just buy a prebuilt and you’re already there

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

This could be nice for folks that want a console-like living room experience that "just works".

Me? I built a Linux HTPC a dozen years ago and have periodically updated the graphics card (it gets the hand-me-downs from my main gaming PC) so I don't need this. I'm far more interested in a Steam Controller 2 😄

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I'm not the target for such device, I play on my PC and on the Deck when on the couch. But I wish the rumor is true, it will boost PC gaming as a whole

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

What would make me happy is a way smoother experience with game streaming. With moonlight/sunshine I've found it works incredibly well - when it does. I always ran into issues with resolution setting, windows lock screen, power on power off etc. I mean, I'm sure I could figure it out over time but I'm way to lazy, I don't have time to tinker with that. I just want it to work.

If I could sit on my couch and have a cool and quiet steam deck streaming off my PC in the other room, that would be sweet.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Something something steam link…

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Third time's the charm. Well, in their case second time was the charm, the steamdeck was such a success that I understand the decision to try out the steam machines idea once again.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

If they build it as an actual console rather than the previous thing where anyone could put out a PC, install SteamOS on it, and call it a Steam Machine, then it will probably be genuinely competitive with Xbox. Sure, it'll still be a standard X86-64 system running Linux, but they need brand control.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

And why not? That's all consoles are, now. Do you want the blue AMD laptop, or the green AMD laptop?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

From reddit:

is this trust worthy?

Extasis mentions this guy handledeck as the source

https://xcancel.com/HandleDeck/status/1886501899832021224#m

which links to this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgKzbHIWDK4

which just mentions this article https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-25.0-RADV-RDNA4-State

saying: "by reading this article carefully we can come up to the conclusion that..."

Seems all bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Instant pre-order for me. Steamdeck has been by far my favorite gaming console but TV performance is only good for low requirement games and I'd love the same experience for proper 4k gaming even if it's medium fidelity.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm not sure what would be the point. Isn't it "just" a PC with Steam OS running on it? Would it be to help people just default to SteamOS?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Having a popular, standardized pc with fixed hardware and OS would enable game developers to aim that as minimum(or recommended) requirement and to optimize their games for that. And since it will be running linux, this means that gaming in linux would become even more mainstream and better supported too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also being theoretically not portable, it could be more powerful than the Steam Deck making emulation even easier.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

aren't the other consoles just pcs with custom os?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Kinda, but not quite. The main difference, imo, is that consoles have several anti-tampering measures in place, often as exclusive hardware, to ensure owners don't jailbreak. The PC is, by design, open and "unsafe", without measures to stop owners from doing whatever.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

When the first Steam Machines were announced years ago, I assumed they'd all be running the same hardware like consoles do, and I thought that was actually quite a good idea because it could give game devs a sort of "baseline" set of hardware to aim for, as opposed to the sort of "vaguely make it run on Windows" system we seem to have currently. So if the new ones are all more-or-less the same kit like the Steam Decks are, and they take off well enough, it could be handy in that way I guess.

Plus it'll presumably run SteamOS so more Linux exposure which I always appreciate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Optimization profiles for games to target the specific hardware. It would be for people that want a steam deck like device that isn’t portable. Which would probably sell more units than a steam deck now. If priced right I would put it in my living room. It just needs to have the QOL that comes with console for couch gaming.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

The article has been updated, this isn't true unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

The Steam Box is back!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A new steam link would have been nice

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Overall, this makes sense. We've kind of acted like console gaming is somehow separate from computer gaming because of consoles exclusive monopolies on various titles, but it's become much clearer over time that it's actually PC which has been gather exclusive titles by... just... Being easy to develop for with no requirement to port? It looks more and more like we're seeing PC taking over the gaming space more and more. Hopefully valve can pull this off right.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

There are still advantages to a fixed platform like the Steam Deck. It makes a fixed hardware platform to optimize for. Anything that runs on Deck should also run on another PC.

Likewise, a Steam Box that was popular enough would provide a target hardware platform with higher spec.

Most hardware manufacturers will have too high paced a release schedule, so unlikely to provide a stable hardware spec.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I run Bazzite HTPC Version on my gaming rig, i would consider this the best console experience nowadays. A huge amount of games, no need to rebuy games i allready owned on a previous PC and most games run out of the box just fine.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok. And how much will it cost?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Likely more than consoles which are usually sold at a loss.

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