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[–] [email protected] 163 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Fun fact: nearly 40% of all foodborne illnesses were caused by raw milk consumption. Pasteurization has reduced that number down to less than 1%, except in places where raw milk consumption is still allowed.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Been only buying organic milk for 10+ years now out of preference, it stays fresh for much longer than normal milk. This is because USDA Organic milk is ultra-pasteurized in almost the same way as shelf-stable milk.

I searched and found this article and they reported that there's virtually no difference in nutrients between the options:

https://www.100daysofrealfood.com/is-ultra-pasteurized-milk-bad/

So if all the nutrients are the same, the only difference in less pasteurization is more bacteria. Fuck that!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (25 children)

I mean… science says it’s dangerous. Reality says it’s dangerous. And soon, for many, entropy will remember that it was dangerous.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Welp time to switch to 100% oat milk

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oat milk is great imo. Planet Oat extra creamy is the best available where I'm at.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Depending on your patience, you can make your own for super cheap. It's roughly 100g oats to 1000g water, with 20-50g neutral oil, and a tiny bit of guar and xanthan gums. Blend the oats and water for a minute, strain, then add the gums and oil and blend again. Sweeten to taste. Maybe ten minutes max.

If you can get it easily, adding amylase enzymes (blend of alpha, beta and gamma works best) after blending, warming to around 140, let sit for 30 minutes and then raise to 180 for 5 will increase the sweetness and keep it from getting gloopy. You can get them pretty cheap from a brewing supply store. It's how they make commercial oat milk, and it's how they can say "no added sugar" and still have it be sweet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

You wonderful human being, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What does neutral oil mean? Just any vegetable oil like olive oil or canola oil etc?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

One that doesn't have a strong taste, canola yes, olive no.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This will almost certainly cause a rise in neonatal Listeria cases from maternal transmission...which even if the child survives, can leave them with lifelong disability and functional dependency. Through no fault of their own...just their parents.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Conservatives Embrace Raw Milk

Not seeing the problem, here.

Regulators Say It’s Dangerous

…And? We need a little chlorine in our gene pool. If the dumbest and most ignorant segment of America wants to kill themselves, it’s an adult making an adult’s decision. It can only improve society if they do.

My only objection kicks in when kids end up in the cross hairs of that stupidity and ignorance.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Why do these fucking morons always want the objectively worst thing? The absolute dumbest thing you can think of and they're all for it. Why is the world like this now? I can't fucking stand it. "Let's get rid of the FDA and OSHA!" Like, what the fuck is this horse shit. This shouldn't be allowed to happen! I'm legitimately losing my sanity more and more each day.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately it's not that simple. Avian flu and other viruses can potentially spread from cows to humans, where it's more likely to mutate and spread. It's never the risk-accepters that suffer most. It's always the sick, the poor, the very young and the very old, and the healthcare workers who suffer. The people who refused to get vaccines or take even basic precautions with COVID killed a lot of people, while the vast majority of those assholes survived.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Avian flu and other viruses can potentially spread from cows to humans, where it’s more likely to mutate and spread.

Every single person that contracts the HPAI H5N1 virus is a few billion chances for the virus to mutate and generate a strain that is able to spread from person to person. These people are throwing dice over and over and when they come up snake eyes, we are all going to lose.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

But then the fault is obviously DEI, because it made the birds gay or something...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

A coworker of mine (African American) lost three cousins to COVID. Minorities are less likely to have good healthcare or the resources to pay out of pocket when necessary. I'm mostly on team Darwin too but I agree it's not just the idiots that will get hurt. The way things are going schools might even start teaching that raw milk isn't that harmful.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

And when more parents start giving their kids raw milk, what then?

Forcing kids to eat dangerous food is child abuse.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (4 children)

stop. don’t. come back…

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

help.... police.... murder

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Can anyone explain to me why conservatives love raw milk so much? Is it like more profitable or something? Why the hell does this keep coming up?

[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Science-denying anti-intellectualism mixed with "you can't tell me what to do!"

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Exactly. And we should exploit that by telling them it's not safe to consume Arsenic or lick a lead bar multiple times a day, every day. They'll be like, "oh yeah! watch me lib tard!". And the population will shrink. :)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey, it turns out that lead acetate is a natural, calorie-free, sweetener! In fact, the ancient Romans used it. The FDA doesn't want you to use this because they're in bed with Big Sugar and the Splenda people.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

It's the hip new way to feel rebellious and tell the government "you can't tell me what to do" while the government fucks them over and steals their future for a quick pay day.

It's a carefully orchestrated distraction.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

They're like toddlers. You tell them they shouldn't and they will do everything in their power to do it anyways. They don't believe in science so everything is a "radical far left jewish space laser" conspiracy to take away their freedumbs.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As far as I can tell: It's partially the same shit as the anti vaccine mixed with being angry about government regulations.

A lot of the anecdotes I've heard about raw.milk being safe, are from small farms with few dairy cows.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

They are going to harm their own children, too, which is the real tragedy here.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cheese made from unpasteurized milk can be safe, its what happens in most of the world. As long as its done correctly, tested and labeled as such that is fine. The whole point of the cheesemaking process is to encourage the good microbes to outcompete with the bad ones to make the cheese since its a preservative method. Its the drinking of raw milk that is dangerous. So of course that is the part that everyone wants to do and fight about

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cheese made from unpasteurized milk can be safe

From what I know of the US food industry, I still wouldn't chance it over there.

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