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Summary

Senator Bernie Sanders condemned Trump’s order to freeze all federal loans and grants, calling it a “dangerous move towards authoritarianism” and “blatantly unconstitutional.”

The directive, exempting Social Security and Medicare, is expected to impact universities, nonprofits, food assistance programs, health centers, and disabled veterans.

Sanders emphasized that Congress holds the “power of the purse” and urged Americans to oppose the order.

Attorneys general are preparing legal challenges to overturn the freeze.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unless someone actually does something, he effectively is a king.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Blasts! Slams! Eviscerates!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I'd quite like to see him face serious consequences for once

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Sliced! Diced! Julien-fries'd!

[–] [email protected] 105 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

According to the Supreme Court, he is a king. I do not know why everyone hasn’t been absolutely freaking out about that ruling since it came down. According to that court, he is allowed to do literally anything as long as it’s an official act. This is not a rules-based society anymore.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Weirdly enough, many if not most kings in history were not absolute monarchs and had to follow some rules and expectations or risk losing their power (and possibly life).

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You know what we do to kings?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Live under their rule until they appoint another king/queen and then they die.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 109 points 4 days ago (19 children)

Republicans, everyone who voted for him and everyone who decided to not vote or to vote for third parties all decided that he should be king.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Absolutely. There are also Dems in Congress/Senate that have been voting yea to his bills. It's disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (15 children)

"Yeah, every single Republican hates us and are openly corrupt, but like 2 Dems (usually caucusing Independents) are also bad."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (18 children)

Im confused, are we supposed to pretend that there aren’t also democrats that are voting for Trump initiatives? Because trying to remove accountability for that seems idiotic.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Drawing attention to the outliers that vote against party lines is something that is often done by concern trolls to argue both sides are the same and sow apathy for democrats. This is most noticeable around election time.

You may not be trying to do that but your comment resembles what they would say. Usually blaming all democrats for the actions of a few going against the party.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (8 children)

The Democrats (there's five or six of them) that are voting for Trumps insane bills need to be named and shamed. It doesn't have have anything to do with "both sides".

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

100% this. He's going to operate as a king, and remove anyone in his way that disagrees. He will take every concession afforded to him by the spineless Republican party and some spineless Dems also.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I feel bad for Bernie. I never agreed with his politics 100% across the board but I have the utmost respect for the man. He has stuck to his guns basically since he started. It's a real shame the Democrats shot him down to shove Hillary down our throats in 2016.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That was basically the moment when it became apparent that the Dems chose oligarchy. Had they let Bernie run and win, we wouldn’t be in this predicament. Had they chosen to prosecute crime instead of protect wealth, we wouldn’t be in this predicament.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but to prosecute crime would have involved going after many of their own voters and donors.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Gasp!

Integrity? Can't have that!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What's the last politician that legitimately had integrity? Besides Bernie.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (13 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There is nothing that dumpy is doing that cannot be undone or re-done by a future president.

Relying on a president that changes every 4-8 years to make overwhelming changes is going to cause a lot of issues. If we thought government was dysfunctional before, just wait until it's maliciously dysfunctional.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think all the suffering brought on by his stupid, selfish, cruel decisions can't just be "fixed" by the next president.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago

If they just follow his orders and there's no consequences for laws walked over in the process then it isn't really illegal is it?
I fucking hate this timeline.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

So anyway bernie started blasting

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago

I'm sure it's not legal, but I don't think that matters anymore.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I may not personally be a fan of Bernie (hes a centrist and im a leftist) but he would be an absolutely incredible compromise candidate (granted ideally we would not need to compromise with capitalists). Sadly even a compromise between labor and capital is "too much" for the ruling class.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Bernie isn't perfect, but he's been the only candidate who holds some left-leaning ideologies without being totally impossible to elect.

It's too bad he got shut down for Hillary, and now he's much too old to start a pres. term.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the constitution outlines this sort of changes in budget and allocation as Congress' sole authority.

I just gave it a quick read-through and it doesn't state anywhere in Article II that he has the power to do this, and further he is required by Article II Section 3 to enforce all laws passed by congress. This is supposedly the section that they used to Impeach Bill Clinton, as his perjury in a civil case was considered breaking the law and therefor failing to enforce it.

Fun fact, the new admin has removed the Constitution from the website, promises to put it back eventually.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Read the whole thing this morning thanks to Leejay over on Patreon, you can also listen to her read the whole thing as well has highlight and explain parts of it here: https://youtu.be/VoNp_ExiOyI

I recommend we all read it wherever you like. But read it nonetheless. Unfortunately it's not that long.

But yeah he doesn't have this power according to our constitution.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago

He is a king and all that stuff about taxes and representation and kings has been tossed by the people.

This is what they want.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't Trump f**King a porn star?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes. Not sure why this is relevant here though.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

The loans part doesn't even make sense, thats money that will be paid back

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