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    Clarification: Just making fun of people(including myself) who watch shitty videos instead of official documentation.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    I really like the man pages, but they're an encyclopedia, not a tutorial. Great for looking up specifics when you already have a foundation. Not so great when starting out

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

    When I was first learning programming I had a teacher who insisted that the only resource we could was the Java docs.

    When you want to know what parameters you need to pass or what certain flags do, it's a great resource. When you don't even know how to iterate through an array, it's not the first place to look.

    [–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Man pages fucking suck, and I say that having been working with linux full time professionally for 11 years.

    The best ones have plenty of examples.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Is there any reason to use tealdeer over just tldr aside from speed?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

    I don't know tbh. I used both and tldr was really slow when compared to man or even just DDGing, tealdeer is real fast

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

    Yeah, I'm writing code on Linux and for Linux and I use it extensively since 2012. I can remember maybe one or two times man was really helpful. Usually it's an enormous book that somehow doesn't contain exactly that bit information that you're looking for

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

    Man pages are for reference, not learning.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

    My dryer broke the other day, which turned out to be the heating element. I watched a bunch of videos to try and figure out how to troubleshoot the problem and hopefully address it.

    One of the videos, after an intro, claimed to have the solution. Then they proceeded to talk about the temperature control features of the machine and how I should make sure the heat is turned on.

    That is the level many of the unix / software development videos out there. Just literally some AI slop or silly person who doesn't know what they are talking about uploading a quick clip to grow their channel.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

    Honestly I kinda like man pages. It is a pain but it is the least painful. And compared to e.g. the PowerShell docs, I love the man pages.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

    To be fair we do the same with windows.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

    I mostly use Tealdear but --help works well when Tealdear gets too simplified.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

    Has anyone here ever come across a low res tutorial video with microsmic font that is impossible to read? I appreciate their desire to help others but why do people do that?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

    Man pages suck ass. But not as much as fucking YouTube tutorials.

    Can someone just write a nice plain English instruction page?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

    I'm in this image and I don't like it.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

    Having a good --help command does wonders.

    There are man pages which do avoid me opening a web browser, the systemd ones are pretty good for example.

    I just installed tldr to test it out tho.

    [–] [email protected] 103 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    Man pages are for people who already know a lot about Linux and understand all the nuances and understanding of Linux

    Even after using Linux for many many years I still don't understand wtf nearly all man pages mean. It's like a fucking codex. It needs to be simplified but not to the extreme where it doesn't give you information you need to understand it.

    Tbh that's most of Linux, not designed for average people, designed by Linux users who think that all others should know everything about Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

    I find them very useful for programs that I already know what to use them for otherwise I usually consult the arch wiki.

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    [–] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

    Man pages are literally indecipherable as a newby

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    [–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Copypastes every terminal command string from every forum post they see, hoping one of them fixes the problem

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

    These are the same people who later on complain about Linux being shit because it just breaks

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    [–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    You ask someone for instructions

    They send you some bullshit 10 minutes long video

    Now instead of ctrl+f or skimming the article and jumping where you want to go you need to jump around in a video

    REEEE

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I have a theory a lot of people are functionally illiterate and thus prefer videos as they can't skim well

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Or maybe they just grok things more effectively via verbal instruction and visual aids?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Isn't that the same thing?

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