I just deleted most of my other social media apps and am trying to lean into the fediverse and nostr as much as I can.
this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2025
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I'm a fediverse supporter (obviously, that's why I'm here), however what you're looking for requires a critical mass of users that the fediverse (at least the Lemmy side of it) will never achieve as long as two very critical problems persist:
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sign up is confusing. People are used to clicking "create an account," inputting a user name, password, and maybe an email, and then BAM they're a user. I realize the whole instance thing is the entire point, but no one wants nor expects to have to do significant research and make a decision about how they want to interact with a social media site before they've even started using it.
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the site (or at least lemmy.world) is sooo slooow. Basic functions like loading images take me back to the dial-up era of "click the image then do something else while it loads," which is downright ridiculous in the 2020s. Again I've stuck with it because I want to support the fediverse, but 99% of users won't.
And no, these aren't "features not bugs" unless you want to keep the site small and homogenous.
I honestly don't understand point 1. no matter how much people say it.
Maybe I'm naive because it wasn't confusing to me personally, but it is only one extra step to create an account. When people explain the Fediverse to new people they compare it to e-mail anyway, which basically has the exact same sign-up structure. The only difference to me is the way it is advertised. Nobody in general says "you need to join e-mail", it's usually "join GMail" or "join Yahoo". I don't know how it would be solved without detracting from the "choose the instance that is right for you" experience though, since the instances with the most support and funding will obviously hold the most influence (as we currently see with lemmy.world and lemmy.ml, not to mention pixelfed.social).
IDK maybe I'm wrong, lmk, but I don't think choosing an instance is all the friction it's said to be.
The big instances are definitely slower though.
I think you're drastically underestimating how even small steps like that can tune a ton of people out. If they're only sort of on the fence about it it might be enough to make it not worth it. Or maybe they'll think they'll check later but never get around to it.
Nobody in general says "you need to join e-mail", it's usually "join GMail" or "join Yahoo". I don't know how it would be solved without detracting from the "choose the instance that is right for you" experience though
No I think you're right, give them an instance. They won't have enough knowledge to choose an instance anyways. If they don't like the one you gave them then they can move later.
I was confused by #1 before I got a grasp of Lemmy then I realized lemmy.world is the largest instance and I can just sign up here.
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but no one wants nor expects to have to do significant research and make a decision about how they want to interact with a social media site before they've even started using it.
Then just directly recommend specific, general purpose instances to people.
I agree with you on 1. I hope it never fucking changes. The worst thing that could happen is we get the critical mass of dipshits that turns every online service into a fucking shit tornado.
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I already use fediverse an unhealthy amount, if I do more I might die.
Then die.
you aren't social mediaing right unless it makes you bleed
Not using other social media annymore. Lemmy was my first introduction to the fediverse. Now I am also using Mastodon and experiment with a hubzilla hub on my homeserver.
Maybe in the coming 4 years people will finally understand why handing over everything to corps isn't great. Whether they'll do anything with that understanding is questionable though. The amount of "but it's so easy" and "I'm just one person" doomerism is fantastic.
it's sad when people's call to action is when things go into freefall I cant claim superiority though, I've been there
I don't think advertising here is necessary 😉
They posted the same on reddit. It's an open letter to humans.
It's not saying "everyone come to lemmy" it's saying "everyone post more an reinvigorate communities".
Since all this shit started happening I've deleted all the social media apps on my phone and I've started using lemmy more. Gonna switch my YouTube shit over to peertube when I can.
Intending to actually delete my accounts in the coming weeks too. Bye bye, 13 year old reddit account. Nobody gonna miss ya.
Tbf I have been using Nebula a lot since I signed up pretty cheaply and I enjoy it. It's owned by the creators. Found it through Jacob Geller.
YouTube is a bit of an issue as unlike the others there's a lot of content and information you can't get elsewhere.
I've been considering using a proxy to scrape and download subscriptions and add them to a personal server. Probably not practical to do for everything though with how much space that would be.
At the very least see if there's a wrapper that can strip out a lot of content and just show the stuff I want to watch VS all the nonsense they fire at you.
I'm considering making some Peertube content to help water the drought! Just need some good ideas, haha
Bye bye, 13 year old reddit account.
don't forget to delete your comments there!
I mean if the account is deleted it's no longer tied (to the puboic at least), and I'm not about to fool myself into thinking my internet use is actually secure.
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I think 90% of my posts are deleted before sending because I just know that someone somewhere will find a way to be mad about it
But OK - here is a post that I would usually have deleted :)
I have never felt more heard - I am so glad that you did not delete this.:-)
As Someone Somewhere, I urge you to post more.
I cannot believe this account is two years old and not made just for this comment haha.
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The trick, plumbercraic, is not minding that they will be mad.
Over the years I've learned it's ok to ignore if it seems like someone wants to pick a fight. Not everything has to be a debate, and no it doesn't make you look weak. You just got better shit to do than argue with strangers on the internet. :)
OMG really? How COULD you...
Neglect to offer your valuable opinion. Hey, you're a human and have valuable things to say. Haters gon hate. Fuck 'em.
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Ok. I'll start commenting more literally right now.
Is there a list or links somewhere of the defederated basic site replacements?
Like I know about Lemmy (replacement for reddit), Loops (replacement for ticktock/reels), and pixelfed (replacement for insta). Oh and I switched from Spotify to tidal. 🤷🏼♀️
Is there a YouTube replacement? Thats really the next big media channel I use daily..
Thanks Lemmy friends 💜
This is a good place to start: https://fedidb.org/software/
I like the idea of PeerTube and hope it catches on, but I wouldn't call it a YouTube replacement at this point. There are services that feed youtube content to users remotely though (there is/was a link-converter bot that went around that annoyed some people here, but a) can't remember the name, and b) can't remember the actual software involved).
I'd love to see nothing but PeerTube links in the fediverse. YouTube has become almost unusable for me.
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2025 year of the fediverse???
Jokes aside, i completely agree. Meta and Xitter completely shot themselves in the foot (lol) and pixelfed is gaining mainstream attention, and the new year just started!
I predict we'll gain a massive influx of new users next year, due to the kindness of Zucc and Muskrat 😊
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A lot of times I'll write out a comment and end up deleting it. Most times it's because I feel like it's something that's already been said or not worth reading but I'll try to be less of a lurker.
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I'm back after a year away. My two favourite niche interests (wrestling & fantasy books) still don't have hugely active communities but I'll start pitching in again with some lukewarm takes.
What fantasy book community is it? I've been looking for one and haven't found one yet
Probably [email protected]
Not the most active, but didn't find anything better
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All I want to ask of you is to just comment a few more times, ...
I think I'm fully maxxed out.
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Small instance owner here. All are welcome. We have one really busy community here, and a few others that are just getting going that you might find interesting. You like World of Warships? The Last of Us? St. Louis Battlehawks? Abandoned Buildings?
You'll notice some of these communities are a ghost town. Images are broken and there's a rat eating pizza. So step up. Avoid the large, overwhelmed, weirdly-political instances and give us little guys a chance.
I'll begin by introducing myself. Hi! I am oleorun, named after the recently deceased Bob Uecker's Baseball Hall of Fame speech. My instance, https://real.lemmy.fan/, is known for the [email protected] community, but we have more to offer. [email protected] , a college radio station, [email protected] , and more communities waiting to be joined, and built, and best of all there's no ads, no donation requests, just pure love of a federated instance that thrives on niceness.
I'd be real happy for you to join us.
Edit: Typos
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