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Rep. Dan Crenshaw criticized Apple Maps for not renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, as mandated by Trump’s recent executive order titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.”

Crenshaw’s complaint reflects broader conservative frustration, as tech platforms and the global community continue to use the original name.

Critics compare the move to past nationalist gestures like renaming french fries "freedom fries," accusing conservatives of embracing identity politics and culture wars despite their political dominance.

The name change is unlikely to gain international traction.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 20 hours ago

Fuck, I honestly thought this was the Onion. Somebody get me out of this timeline. I withdraw consent for this simulation!

[–] [email protected] 97 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure it's called "Gulf of How The Fuck Does This Lower Grocery Prices"

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Hey everyone, I just signed a lemmy order changing the name of maralago to gaping jizz hole. Enjoy!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for your service, sir/madam. You're already a better executive than some presidents I can think of, thinking of what the people want.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

As the first matter of business I need to immediately address, my resignation. No one man is equipped to weild the power of the lemexcutive for much longer than I have.

Farewell lemmings. Until we shit post together again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

Good night, sweet prince(ss)! Though your reign in this (lemmy.) world was short, your reign in our hearts will last at least a few more minutes!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Use "Oblast" instead of state for every single red shithole.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

This should include the beautiful Oblast of New America if we are anyway in the process of renaming things.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Who's gonna tell him?

The earliest known use of the name America dates to April 25, 1507, when it was applied to what is now known as South America. It is generally accepted that the name derives from Amerigo Vespucci, the Italian explorer, who explored the new continents in the following years on behalf of Spain and Portugal, with the name given by German cartographer Martin Waldseemüller.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_of_the_Americas

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Brazilians also Americans.

Venezuelans also Americans.

Canadians? Yep Americans

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Having a step dad from Buenos Aires, I'm offended you forgot Argentina. But they have their own kind of crazy MAGA there, currently...

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Waldseemüller

It's a good thing the continent wasn't named after him instead!

Then again, having a swim in the Gulf of Waldseemüller sounds kind of nice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

For all the non-Germans, Herr Waldseemüller or one of his ancestors probably was a miller at a lake in the forest. That's what the components of his name say, and we already have a body of water here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

That's a whole debate people from the US are not ready for

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Anyone else remember "freedom fries"? That's what we were supposed to call french fries when conservatives were upset that the French were not supporting the US invasion of Iraq.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It’s even stupider when you remember that fries are from Belgium.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 21 hours ago

And that "frenched" is the way they're cut, not that they have anything to do with the country.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it started in WWI.

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/36579/did-the-u-s-government-try-to-rename-hamburgers-to-liberty-sandwiches

From a 1976 interview with German-American T. Max Kniesche, who moved to San Francisco in 1907, and worked in restaurants and cafes there:

Teiser: What was it like in San Francisco for Germans during the first world war? You were working at a clearly German restaurant. [...]

Teiser: Did you change the kind of food that you served, or the decorations?

Kniesche: Well, the hamburger steak was Liberty Steak. French-fried potatoes were Liberty Potatoes. [laughter] We called it Liberty, but the liberty wasn't there. Anyhow, everything went to "Liberty." [laughter]

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Mission Accomplished” might be one of the greatest all time. And to think I thought that would be as low as it could get for our country.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

Sorry if this has been asked elsewhere, but who even has the legal right to rename the gulf? It doesn't belong to USA, right? So we can't just rename it, right? If we did, everybody else in the world would keep calling it The Gulf of Mexico, right?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 20 hours ago

Every sovereign state can publish maps require everyone to use it as reference for further publication in its own territory. Hence you'll see different maps on Google for different regions. There's a UN committee to coordinate these and also to publish international water area names.

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[–] [email protected] 169 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Ahem. Umm, conservatives are angry that others are not calling something what THEY want it to be called?

Hmm. So.... I just feel like... perhaps, there's a similarity here. Some people... want to be referred to a specific way... but usually conservatives have a problem with that.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (11 children)

How about the rest of the world rename it to the "Gulf of Snowflakes" and see what America does

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 23 hours ago

There is no gulf with that name anywhere in the world.

You'll have to go back and figure out what you mean. Feel free to let us know once you find the name of a real gulf.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With all the other bullshit, I missed this EO being made. Jesus fuck.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Wait, this is an official thing, not a joke? Is it a law thing?...

What???

[–] [email protected] 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Executive Orders are closer to press releases than they are to law. They can say pretty much anything - whether those things are enforceable or even consistent with reality is up to the courts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Government employees and institutions are bound to act according to executive orders. They are binding. You’re correct they can be challenged in court. EO need to fit under existing laws. EO are often instructions on how to implement an existing law.

Press releases are not binding and might even be outright lies.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago

Executive Orders are more like a corporate memo to the government. It’s not a law passed by congress, but it can direct the government in how to administer existing laws or regulations.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Should list it as "Gulf of Cuba" and watch their heads explode.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Wait, that really happened? I thought the gulf of Mexico renamed shit was just memeing. Google maps still shows the proper name instead of the tantrum name.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (10 children)

The president ordered it. There is no legal mechanism to compel private companies to use the new name.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/restoring-names-that-honor-american-greatness/

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

There is no legal mechanism to compel private companies to use the new name.

There is also no legal mechanism to require any other country on the planet to pay attention to Trump's stupid and pointless attempt at renaming it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 23 hours ago

It never will happen. We all keep calling it what it is, the gulf of Mexico. Easy.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I thought the gulf of Mexico renamed shit was just memeing.

I have a feeling we're going to be seeing a lot of "I didn't think he would really do ____" in the coming weeks and months.

I was under no such illusions. He has no one to stop him this time around.

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[–] [email protected] 263 points 1 day ago (6 children)

For people always calling the others "snowflakes" and "easily triggered", they sure do have a thin skin.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago

Maybe, but this is all a distraction from the actions that matter. They don't want to debate the anti-trans stuff or the immigration stuff, which is objectively bad. They want to debate people not going with a made up name for a thing, which has no objectivity. The longer they can argue about this the less time there is to discuss anything important.

Its not just being thin skinned. It's a strategy of distraction.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Every accusation

[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 day ago (10 children)

“I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you were so sensitive” is my response to these types IRL.

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[–] [email protected] 186 points 1 day ago (14 children)

They want an efficient government not wasting time and resources on unnecessary things ...

They get a government crying over the name of a body of water.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

I can't with these neogulfnouns

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Apple is not beholden to executive orders... No private company is.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

Republicans upset that nobody respects their name change? Huh. Snowflakes.

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