People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.
RULES:
Meanwhile my lonely ass been sitting over here absolutely loathing Fallout: New Vegas since its release. I did not like that game. I probably would today if I got over myself and tried playing it again.
I read that tweet as something that wasn't really about Fallout: New Vegas, and more as something using it as a vehicle for a joke (about adult women being nostalgic for the games they played as teenage boys).
Yeah somehow almost everyone is missing the joke? π
The joke is partly that lots of trans women in particular enjoyed this game in particular, so plenty of people who noticed the switcheroo in the tweet will still see it as an opportunity to talk about the game rather than seeing the game as something irrelevant that could be swapped out for another.
But why trans women?
Boys will be boys
Often men wanna be inside a women, these people found the cheat code.
Oh we all got it, but our reaction was to relate warmly.
i had a hearty queer chuckle
I'm sure you could swap it out for other things and it would still work, like OOT or something.
I liked NV way more than FO3 because it felt like the same world as FO1 and 2, while 3 felt like an imposter wearing their skin.
It also is the most RPG-like of all the 3D fallout games. Obsidian actually knows how to make an RPG. And having a couple of the people who made FO1 and 2 was a big help. To this day, Old World Blues has some of the best dialogue in a video game.
For anyone considering playing or replaying New Vegas, I cannot reccomend the Viva New Vegas modlist enough.
It's unfortunately not just some "one click setup". There is a Wabbajack installer, but there are some small steps you still need to do manually too.
That said, it is by far the best and most comprehensive "vanilla plus" modpack I have ever used. I'm a modding addict; I don't say that lightly. It doesn't change core game mechanics, story, or anything the makes New Vegas what it is.
It polishes what's there, upgrading visuals in a consistent manner that blends perfectly with the original content. It fixes countless longstanding bugs, performance issues, and crashes (only two crashes in ~40 hours on a setup that was modded even further past what the pack includes).
It polishes New Vegas to what it should have been on release (if Bethesda didn't force Obsidian to rush it out the door early), then brings it as close to the quality of a modern release as possible through modding.
If you want to replay Fallout 3, a lot of people prefer playing it in the New Vegas engine using the Tale of Two Wastelands mod. The version of Viva New Vegas that covers that and includes mods for the Fallout 3 content is "The Best of Times".
It appears to be up to the same quality as VNV standalone, but I haven't used it myself yet.
I'm probably going to get hate for this, but do you know if any mods that allow the game to work in Windows 11? None of the fan patches I could find in the Nexus actually work, even if they claim they are for Win11 users. The game still crashes constantly. I'm seriously considering digging my old gaming PC out of storage just so I can play NV one last time.
How's the game in Linux? Haven't tried it there yet cause it barely runs in Win7, an OS it was designed for (but at least it runs), so I didn't even try it in Linux cause I'm doubtful it'll work any better than it does in 11.
I really reccomend you just follow the Viva New Vegas guide I linked. If you only follow it through the first few pages and stop before the "VNV Extended" section begins, there's no gameplay tweaks, only bug and crash fixes. The only texture mods in that section of the guide are for landscape textures (mainly distant landscape textures) to reduce visible repetition.
It's the most up to date guide I've found concerning crash fixes, performance fixes, and general stability fixes. There's a bunch of old "fixes" that actually cause more problems on modern systems, and you don't need to worry about sorting through any of that yourself if you follow the guide.
In my experience, the crashing is usually from some directX rendering compatibility issues with the windows 11 driver and display stack. Try using DXVK (which is what steam proton uses on Linux) to convert the driver stack into something vulkan compliant. For me, personally, it SIGNIFICANTLY reduced crashes even in windows 10. I'm rocking an AMD GPU though so my vulkan performance is notably more stable than many Nvidia equivalents. To use DXVK you just download the zip file from the GitHub releases page and drop it (extracted, 32 bit dll's specifically) into the folder with the game binaries (similar to old dinput override mods). Then launch the game like normal and it SHOULD "just work".
do you have the steam version or gog? i played the steam version on windows 11 last year and had no more problems than usual. also if youβre using the steam version, you might have to make sure itβs not installed within Program Files or Program Files (x86). those install locations can cause problems with mods.
you might also benefit from installing the 4gb patch in addition to IStewieAIβs engine tweaks. a lot of the mods in the first few sections of the viva new vegas guide are pretty much essential in order to play the game with minimal bugs and crashes. also some of the βcrash fixingβ mods cause problems in windows 10 and 11.
hopefully one of the above things works. i had to find a lot of those things out the hard way, it can be a pretty finicky game. really fun though.
Wow that's an unpopular opinion for sure. You might get roasted for that one. What bugged you about it?
Not OP but New Vegas always felt like a total overhaul mod for Fallout 3. Same assets, different location, different story, crashes a lot.
Basically was, Bethesda crippled Obsidian with a ridiculous target to release in so they had little to no time to work on new assets etc.
New Vegas is a great game despite its original flaws that in the years since, modders have completely fixed.
no they didnt, obsidian crippled themselves by saying they can do it in 18 months and then mismanaging their time
Yeah, Obsidian has a bad habit of that. Crazy thing is they still managed to make one of the greatest RPGs of all time, crippled and short on development time.
Its a bit "theme parky", but the writing and narrative agency is just so good it's unreal.
its just a shame it could have been even better had they managed it better. i think it was j.e. sawyer who said they really fucked up by not doing the bug testing until it was way too late to fix everything
Maybe, there are a lot of shames in life, and it would have been great to see what they could have done with more dev time. But Bethesda said "we will let you do it if you can get it done in 18 months" and Obsidian said "hell yeah!".
And given that situation, I am actually glad they spent the effort on the writing and player agency over bug fixing. A "better managed" development might well have been far less ambitious.
Now Troika games not winning the bidding war for the Fallout license, that's a damn shame.
if troika won the bidding war fallout would be an obscure hidden gem from the late 90s and thats it
There is definitely a good chance of that. Bethesda was heating up at the time and definitely catapulted the series to international success and fame.
But, and this is just the rambling of an old man, I'm not too concerned about a games popularity. Fallout 1 and 2 are a couple of my favorite games of all time, and basically everything Troika put out are absolute gems. VTM Bloodlines is still a game I go back and play every couple of years or so.
So yeah, there was a good chance Troika would have still gone under, and Fallout would have languished in obscurity, but I'm pretty sure one of what would have been my favorite games of all time vanished into nothingness when Troika lost that bidding war.
Still, I can cry myself to sleep on one my other favorite games, New Vegas.
i like fallout being super popular because then we get cool shit like the tv show and the vault tec pants im currently wearing
That's fair, bet they are nice ass pants.
they are very comfy and i look great in them. was a christmas present from my gf π
Honestly, I'm ok with it it. It created a game more focused on story.
I don't know what I've beaten more times, New Vegas or my meat. Either way that game stays installed on my PC, Steam Deck, Xboxes, everything. I ain't no fink, dig?
Honestly it's just amazing Obsidian was able to make that game's story and assets in 18 months with Bethesda looming over their necks.
no need to make up stories about the development, pretty much every obsidian dev cherished the opportunity to work on that engine and create a game
oh and obsidian themselves set the timeline and then mismanaged their time (like they usually do, see kotor 2)
I never played Fallout New Vegas.
It's sitting unused in my Steam library.
Is it actually any good?
There is a hard "yes/no" answer to this.
It looks like a first person shooter, so you might expect it to play like a fun FPS game. Is it fun in that way? No, not really. Mods can fix this a bit, but it will never be Doom 2016.
It is published by Bethesda, so you might expect it to have fun exploration like Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim. Is it fun in that way? Kinda, but it's a bit theme-parky and the explorable world is less "open" than other Bethesda offerings. What you find is always fun, but the "getting there" part is only so-so. (Kinda the opposite of other Bethesda games this way)
So why is it still talked about so much and called a masterpiece then you might be asking? Well, in the spirit of the great CRPGs, the narrative agency is insanely good. Where many RPGs give you the illusions of choice, New Vegas is the ultimate "choose your own adventure".
While there is no "wrong way" to play a game, if you want to see why people love New Vegas, try to stop thinking about RPGs from the BioWare "paragon/renegade" dichotomy, and instead try to really consider, "what outcome do I want to happen", and New Vegas will surprise the shit out of you with how much agency they really give the player. In this way, it is one of the GOATs. (And I'm not talking about the exam)
if you like fallout then yeah its good
if you dont like fallout or open worlds with a lot of talking to people then youll probably be bored out of your mind
It has the best story of all the Fallouts, by-far. Really amazing what they managed to pull off with only 18 months of development time. But because of the rushed schedule, the game is also extremely buggy. I would not recommend playing it without mods that fix the bugs and restore missing content that wasn't finished in time for release. It also doesn't play well with modern OSes. Some people have had success running it on newer PCs but for me it's been hit or miss. Don't let that discourage you from trying it, though. It's such a good game that it's worth putting some effort into trying to get it to run.
I mean, it's the Majora's Mask of Fallouts.
They already had an engine, they didn't need to play it safe, both because the flagship entry was giving it a boost and protecting it from detracting pressures.
It's the last good fallout game, how can we move on if things after it are subpar?
I have well over 5k hours in fnv split between Xbox 360 and PC. I'm terrified there's never going to be a game like it again with the way everything is becoming a live service.
That's a hell of a take, but I can kind of get it. It was definitely a mess at launch, and was a very different vibe from 3, which might rub you the wrong way if it's not what your preference is.
I do enjoy the shit out of it personally. Different strokes and everything though.
Oh it's not a game I've ever called bad (or maybe I have in a fit of nerd rage, but never meant it), it's just a game that has never appealed to me after my first playing of it. I loved Fallout 3 because it allowed me to get my rocks off on one specific thing I love. Exploring a fucked up, post-apocalyptic, dystopian world. I loved sifting through the rubble and going into places no human has set foot in for a very long time. Exploring. Fallout 3 offered a lot of this. There were scattered settlements and a couple big cities but mostly just fucked up areas with monsters and secrets.
Then there was New Vegas. I do need to play it again to enjoy it for what it is, because I did enjoy it for what it was when I played it a while ago. I was just resentful because your options for exploring desolate areas are pretty far and few between. Most locations on the map have people already there of one faction or another or just a straight up town with bars, shops, etc. It is a great game for building those connections and the questy stuff and I do enjoy that type of game. But I was so hoping for more of the exploration that I got so let down I've just been avoiding the game ever since.
Fallout 3 is a post apocalyptic adventure game. New Vegas is a post post apocalyptic role playing game. I enjoyed the hell out of them both but largely for different reasons.
This is kinda what I see from most people that dislike New Vegas. It's definitely not a post apocalyptic game.
In fact, before Fallout 3, 1 was the only real post apocalyptic game in the series imo. Fallout 2 is a continuation of the world's lore, so all the tribal villages have developed into societies. New Vegas expands upon this, with the societies becoming imperialist states.
So yeah, if you like exploring rubble then New Vegas is NOT the game for that, and Fallout 3 does that much better.
But, if you're more interested in how society would develop after the apocalypse, New Vegas definitely tackles that question head-on.
Fallout 3 was my first, and I do love all the insane shit you can find in the wasteland. It will always have a special place in my heart. But to me, the NPCs are what really give RPGs life, and New Vegas has some of the most well-written, realistically motivated people I've ever seen in video game format. While the Battle of Hoover Dam may not be as grandiose (even though you can put in the legwork to make it fucking awesome) as the Liberty Prime antics in 3, it feels like the culmination of decades of real conflict. It's not good guys vs bad guys, it's 4 distinct groups that all believe they have the best plan to carry humanity to the point at which it existed before the war. I love it for that.
I am not a gamer. I enjoyed fallout 4 a lot, though, and kept hearing all this hype for New Vegas. Legit bought that game thinking it was new. Lmao
What I've played has been good, though
Anyone who wants to play NV again/for the first time, check out Viva New Vegas, a modguide that makes the game actually playable and performant. There's now a Wabbajack version, meaning you can get it perfectly modded with very little user input.
I also recommend "Just Assorted Mods" if you want some modern QoL changes (sprinting, hit markers, weapon wheel, loot quickmenu, etc)
a modguide that makes the game actually playable and performant.
Can you elaborate? How is the game not playable without mods?
"Playable" is a spectrum. First there's the usual compatibility problems that come with running an old game on modern PCs. Plus it's a notoriously buggy game running on a notoriously buggy, engine with DX9 code that did not scale well on the CPU.
With mods you get it to running flawlessly.