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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I believe in viewing as much propaganda as possible, because it helps you better see and understand it. No country is acting in our self-interest as a species right now. It is interesting what different people are allowed to say/not say on different apps. (My goal for this year is to learn enough Turkish to get on the Turkish web and better understand the weird cult that doesn’t get along with Erdoğan - they run lots of charter schools in the US for some reason.)

The fediverse is nice, but is never going to be mainstream. It’s not designed to be addicting, because that isn’t its purpose. Maybe it is for the best to have these small holdouts where you can have something analogous to the early internet - where saying “suicide” or “kill” or talking about sensitive topics doesn’t mean your post will never be seen. These small spaces won’t be bought and destroyed.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 3 days ago (4 children)

From my time on Lemmy. There seems to be a lot of American propaganda on here from people.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I see a lot of Chinese propaganda as well

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And Russian and North Korea for some reason

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The amount of people here who will try to convince you that NK is some sort of paradise here is insane.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

NK is some sort of paradise

The bar for "paradise" is so low. Just living in a country where you don't have chronic homelessness, endless war, and rampant medical bankruptcy seems to qualify.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

North Korea has been in a war since it was created.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They've had a cessation of hostilities since 1953.

The Panmunjom Declaration, signed in 2018 by Kim Jung Un and Moon Jae-in even began the process of reunification.

If only every war was this peaceful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The DPRK later called off talks with South Korea scheduled for 16 May, blaming U.S.–South Korean military exercises…

From your source.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Do you think actual sponsored accounts/bots or just indoctrinated people?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

100% just indoctrinated people, lemmy is too small to catch anyone's attention.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You tend to have very extreme views, which sometimes get heavily downvoted. It’s convenient for you to blame that on “American indoctrination.”

And as you say, Lemmy is too small. So maybe it’s just that a lot of people here do not agree with your views.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Both, but there was definitely blatant astroturfing after Biden withdrew and Kamala became the nominee.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think we just have a surprising amount of political staffers in Lemmy. The bulk does seem to be wealthy people living in suburbs. Look at how the biggest groups are people self hosting thousands and thousands of dollars of equipment.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Sometimes I don't know if it's propaganda or some inferiority complex because I've seen some propaganda from my country (MX) and if I try to go against it I get downvoted constantly (a lot less since I joined an instance that blocked ml, grad and hex) by people adamant into telling me how they lived here for a while, they have family here or how I am ignorant about that country, like... Bitch, everyone in my family has lived here for 3 generations at least, don't come here to tell me how things work when I have to deal with the consequences of a kakistocracy that keeps shitting on everything.
A lot of the fediverse users just have to be right when it comes to politics... And vaping, don't you dare have questions or doubts about vaping because they get mad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

yeah but there's tankies too, so it cancels out

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Linux propaganda 😎👉

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Dude. The Russian propaganda flows freely around here.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't have to interact with .ml instances, you know?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you think it's contained within one instance then you are the exact type of mark they are after.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dont worry, if you put propoganda of opposite polarity together they cancel eachother out. /s

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

We should form our own propaganda. Not as a counterpoint, but as part of a wider fediverse identity.

But to successfully do this without being grouped together with one of the more mainstream platforms, it will have to be one so far removed from established axis' of alignments:

  • Impossible to place on left vs right.
  • Impossible to compared with authoritarianism vs democracy
  • Cannot be tied to a specific geopolitical agenda
  • cannot align with a specific country's interests

How about this: "Sasquatch did 9/11 to distract us from the fact that Big Farming puts nutrients in our food, and the Dutch lgbtq communities are the only one who can save us"

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Impossible to place on left vs right

Not possible unfortunately 😅

What you've come up with there would be considered "left wing" 😂

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The UX here needs to drastically improve for more people to see it as an viable alternative.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use Sync for mobile app and Photon for a web interface. But I think most people are not okay with having to search for these options.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly that yes, it took me a while to find Photon, and I'm someone that's passionate about tech and works in tech.

Your average new user is going to give up long before that and never use the site again.

It's also confusing to pick which instance to start with (users need to be guided more)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

does Fediverse have a short form video content platform? cuz that's what people really care about these days

(also side note, we all really should avoid or limit short form video content consumption...)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

I believe Pixelfed Loops is the only one currently, it's actually not half bad, apart from how barebones and stuttery the app is, which isn't a big deal since the issues are only occasional.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

I haven't checked it out yet but "loops" is supposed to be that

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't understand it at all. I find it infuriating. I need long videos to play in the background while I work. I can't get anything done with this short crap. Maybe that's the point..

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Short-form videos, like many things in modern society (e.g. many video games) are essentially just a Skinner Box. You scroll, watch the video, get a hit of pleasure, and then the video automatically replays. That cues you to scroll. Repeat. It's easy to get stuck in that loop, especially if you already are struggling with executive dysfunction and can't find motivation/pleasure in ordinary activities.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

For the average consumer it just isn't the same without being screwed by big companies.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Not that lemmy isnt free, but just about every instance aside from .world is very left wing, and even here on world just about everyone hates right leaning people.

That being said, you should look up the election posters of the German „die partei”. Their posters, especially the ones regarding Nazis, really vibes with me

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Imagine the hacker news userbase getting drowned out by redditors and bots on a massive scale never seen before. Anybody coming back to the site will scoff at the idea of yet another board wasted by enshitification.

impractical, yes. But the point still stands.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I honestly don't think the fediverse will ever take off - and that's a good thing. If it was to get too mainstream, eventually it would need to be standardised and controllerd to accommodate the average person, which would defeat the point of the fediverse as a whole. Imagine if everyone started using Linux as their daily driver tomorrow; a lot would be fixed, but a lot of the original identity would be broken

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