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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Man i was just told pc gaming would be dead in 5 years

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's not like there needs to be a winner here. Console or PC gaming is just a personal preference and will always coexist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Personal preferences and experiences aside, consoles are a big source of e-waste - they come as an addition to your (presumably already existing) PC, can only be used to play certain games (you might need several different consoles to cover all of the exclusives), they can't be upgraded and lose their relevance over time as games stop being released for older models.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

consoles are a big source of e-waste

Surely pc components are an equal source of e-waste? Personally I think PC gaming is in a weird place with all the unnecessary RGB obsession and endless consumerism of upgrades.

presumably already existing

I think you'd be surprised how uninterested the average person is in owning and using a pc nowadays so we can't easily assume that.

lose their relevance over time

Also applies to pc gaming... It's not like consoles stop working when a new one is released.

Anyway I'm not here to argue for one or the other as they can just happily coexist.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. Consoles exist as a super low barrier to entry, value play for casual gaming. If you just want to have something on your living room tv, a console instantly achieves that, with no debugging or technical know-how required whatsoever.

I switched from a Series X to a living room gaming PC last year and absolutely adore it, but I'm also willing to spend hours tinkering with emulators, playnite, settings, etc. I actually enjoy messing with it, so this is way better for me, but I'm absolutely aware that it's been a massive amount of fiddling to get my experience this clean and integrated, and I'll never manage something like Quick Resume.

If you want it to "just work" absolutely go with a console. If you like to tinker, are bothered by nitpicky details, play a lot and need to cut costs, or just really care about features like higher refresh rates, and aren't put off by a lot of settings and performance testing, then 100% go for a PC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I have a Series S and quick resume and backward compatibility are the best features. The current generation is generally underwhelming though so I'm not surprised if pc gaming is on the rise.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Huh, I'm kind of surprised that's a new thing. I would assume way more people own computers than consoles in modern times so you would think that would always mean more sales

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Thoughout history a typical gaming machine could run you over $1000, game consoles often cost under $400. Consoles are very often sold as loss leaders to promote software sales, PCs are not. Oh and that's just the cost of the box itself; a console is usually designed to attach to a television which has built-in speakers and consoles usually have at least one controller packed in. Computer monitors are sold separately as are any sound equipment. Normie PCs like Dell ~~Inspiron~~ Basic Plus machines might come with a keyboard and mouse but gaming PCs sometimes don't because they expect you're going to buy premium peripherals. You've got a desk to put this on, right?

Oh also there just isn't much of a PC gaming culture in Japan. It may be increasing now but in the land of Nintendo, Sega and Sony they play console games.

On the other hand, a PC is good for things that aren't gaming, like work or something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

TVs are also sold separately though if you are gonna count monitors as extra for PC, wtf. Also you literally have to pay to play online for consoles, thats a joke. Ive saved an insane amount of money by gaming on PC for decades and forgoing consoles overall and its not even close.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For most of the history of home video gaming, a television was primarily purchased for viewing broadcast, cable or satellite TV programming and/or watching movies on tape or DVD. A household that was going to buy a video game machine almost certainly already had at least one television and a game console would be one of the things attached to it. The investment would be considered already made.

That has been true of PC gaming for very small stretches of its existence; PCs have rarely worked on the living room couch so you usually set up a desk scenario with a dedicated monitor. The average PC buyer of the last 30 years would buy a monitor along with the computer.

Yes, if you have no AV equipment at all and want to get into video games you will have to buy some kind of monitor. The typical unwashed mass who has absolutely no AV equipment and wants to play video games will likely buy a Nintendo Switch because he hasn't heard of a Steam Deck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your point makes the case for PC gaming, not consoles lol

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People are less likely to own a TV already these days though than they used to be so the price calculation for consoles favors them a lot less if you take that into account. Not to mention that console games tend to be more expensive than PC games, especially indie PC games now that triple A is more of a warning label than an indicator of quality.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

People have been buying Madden and Call Of Duty reliably for decades now. Doesn't matter if they're good or cheap, there are people who identify as "a person who buys Madden and Call Of Duty."

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Piracy is a lot more accessible on PCs than consoles

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Piracy doesn't really decrease sales though, in fact it might increase them since it generates word of mouth from people who wouldn't have bought it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How about we equate the nebulous uncertainty of those claims, since piracy arguments never have reliable motivator data.

“Piracy might not decrease sales. In fact it might increase them.”

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