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On Lemmy is it usually safe to create ones own community to post their own stuff on a smaller scale when there are other communities already available of the same topic? Or should we just go to the larger communities. To reduce spam. I feel like one side to this is obvious and the the other side is, to create communities to increase competition.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's certainly not dangerous, but, every community could use more traffic around here, so it doesn't make any sense to spread it out any thinner.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Alternative view: decentralization is good! Allow people to create their own communities, even redundant ones, and moderate then differently. I'm subscribed to several "cats" communities and posts all go to my feed regardless of which community they come from

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Eh, I'll subscribe to all of them just the same.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't personally think splitting a small audience makes sense, but if there is some reason you don't like the existing group, that is different. Not sure why it would be unsafe, what are your concerns?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Concerns would be, if a were to join any given Lemmy server and create for instance, another tech community, and possibly getting said community taken down for spam.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think that happens but it wouldn't harm you. You could ask the mods of your server, though, right? It's not a stupid question at all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

What's more likely is that nobody will ever see or use your community.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

That's unlikely, but having a community be in hands of admins you trust is important. If you feel your community will be sufficiently unique in some way (even just moderation style) then go for it. Why not? I have.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

As long as you're happy supplying all of the content, and realize that other people may not come to your community to post new content, then it's totally fine.

Like if you're really eager to talk about things, but you don't want to flood a different community, more power to you

Right now lemmy is so small (a few hundred daily active commenters), I think everyone just uses the ALL feed anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There are dozens of us! DOZENS!!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

FYI lemmy.world has over 6000 daily users, 15k monthly. You could roughly double that to estimate the amount for Lemmy as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure I know the stats say that... But I don't see them posting or commenting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

over the last 24 hours, I can see 4,878 active contributors in our db. 785 unique posters and 4,550 unique commenters.

expanding this to a 30 day view, this gives 20,821 contributors of which 5,648 posted and 19,625 commented.

this is excluding bot accounts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hmm, so almost everyone comments, but maybe 20% post? That's a lot more than I was thinking, wasn't reddit more like 1% post?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

The nature of how everyone ended up here means we're a lot more outspoken and willing to contribute than the average internet user.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy currently only counts users that posted, commented or voted as active users, so the difference is just people who voted but didn't post or comment. there are certainly quite a few more users lurking that aren't included in these stats.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you have any metrics about lurkers? Really curious about that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

only mostly accurately for local users, for remote users we obviously can't see that.

as we have 15 days of log retention for this, i can tell you that we've had about 25.7k requests with auth tokens with a success status over the last 15 days, 23.1k over 7d and 17.9k over 24h.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

15k monthly. You could roughly double that to estimate the amount for Lemmy

More like triple, 42k monthly active users

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Safe, but it seems a bit silly. It's not like there's a huge amount of activity here as is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it is absolutely fine. Most of the time the communities are on a .ml instance, or modded by the worst people imaginable.

Make many communities and let the inferior ones die. This is good for Lemmy. Just don't copy the same posts to your community, as it'll fill the front page with duplicates, which is detrimental to Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I noticed a few duplicates in Lemmy search from time to time. Would definitely avoid doing that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

But check them first. There's many dead communities on ml and way more on world. Make a new one for sure in those cases.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I see it as a positive since difference instances have different mods. I personally would make new ones on dbzer0.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Smaller communities generally have trouble growing. If you were around while Reddit was taking off, they had only a few subreddits to start, and they only created other subreddits when there was a large enough community to support it.

I'd add content to existing community instead of starting a new one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

If you're posting relevant, quality & especially original content then it's not spam. If you crosspost it to a bunch of communities on the same server that's a little spammy, so maybe don't do that, but I don't think it's spammy to crosspost to similar communities on other servers.

Also consider defining the scope of your new community differently. It might be the same topic as another community, but is it more focused? more nuanced? what's the niche you want to fill that the larger community doesn't, or doesn't dive deeply enough into?

And finally manage your expectations. You might have to be the sole contributor for a year or more before you start seeing active participation from other users.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Depends of the topic

  • if there's an active community on that topic, better to contribute there
  • if there's no active community but an inactive community with a lot of subscribers, you can try to revive it
  • there might also be an adjacent community that is already active, and your topic is niche

I see you mentioned tech, there are quite a few communities on programming.dev and lemmy.zip

Feel free to crosspost to [email protected] , it's a community dedicated to community growth