this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2025
117 points (96.1% liked)

Selfhosted

41009 readers
265 users here now

A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.

Rules:

  1. Be civil: we're here to support and learn from one another. Insults won't be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.

  2. No spam posting.

  3. Posts have to be centered around self-hosting. There are other communities for discussing hardware or home computing. If it's not obvious why your post topic revolves around selfhosting, please include details to make it clear.

  4. Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.

  5. Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).

  6. No trolling.

Resources:

Any issues on the community? Report it using the report flag.

Questions? DM the mods!

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Someone on Lemmy posted a phrase recently: "If you're not prepared to manage backups then you're not prepared to self host."

This seems like not only sound advice but a crucial attitude. My backup plans have been fairly sporadic as I've been entering into the world of self hosting. I'm now at a point where I have enough useful software and content that losing my hard drive would be a serious bummer. All of my most valuable content is backed up in one way or another, but it's time for me to get serious.

I'm currently running an Ubuntu Server with a number of Docker containers, and lots of audio, video, and documents. I'd like to be able to back up everything to a reliable cloud service. I currently have a subscription to proton drive, which is a nice padding to have, but which I knew from the start would not be really adequate. Especially since there is no native Linux proton drive capability.

I've read good things about iDrive, S3, and Backblaze. Which one do you use? Would you recommend it? What makes your short list? what is the best value?

(page 2) 34 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I’m still looking for a case that can hold a Pi and a 3.5” drive that I can set up at someone else’s house.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Timely post.

I was about to make one because iDrive has decided to double their prices, probably because they could.

$30/tb/year to $50/tb/year is a pretty big jump, but they were also way under the market price so capitalism gonna capital and they're "optimizing" or someshit.

I've love to be able to push my stuff to some other provider for closer to that $30, but uh, yeah, no freaking clue who since $60/tb/year seems to be the more average price.

Alternately, a storage option that's not S3-based would also probably be acceptable. Backups are ~300gb, give or take, and the stuff that does need S3-style storage I can stuff in Cloudflare's free tier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah, it was $2.5/tb/month, now it's $4.1/tb/month.
Still cheaper than backblaze's $6 which seems the only other option everyone suggests, so it'll have to do for the moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

My idrive plan went from just over $100 to $250.

I created another account, paid for another year at a promotional price, and then deleted my old account.

I will eventually have to come up with a more sustainable cloud/off site backup now that i need more than just a few TB.

Since this is really my "last resort" backup, I'm not too concerned, as anything that would require me to actually restore from this backup set would likely be catastrophic in a life-ending way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I use iDrive, 20TB for a couple hundred bucks a year. I've not found anything that compares to that in pricing. Backblaze I think it's about $1600 a year for the same storage and the major cloud providers are much higher than that. I view cloud backups as the the last line of defense in the backup strategy. So all the nice features that most providers offer at a significant price increase just don't make sense to me as I won't use them. I have the iDrive Linux app running it detects what's new in the monitored directories and shoves them up to the cloud hopefully to never be needed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

After some research on here and reddit about 6 months so, I settled on Borgbase and its been pretty good. I also manually save occasionally to proton drive but you're right to give up on that as a solution!

The hardest part was choosing the backup method and properly setting up Borg or restic on my machine properly, especially with docker and databases. I have ended up with adding db backup images to each container with an important db, saving to a specific folder. Then that and all the files are backed up by restic to an attached external drive at well as borgbase. This happens at a specific time in the morning and found a restic action to stop all docker containers first, back them up, then spin them back up. I am find the guides that I used if it's helpful to you.

I also checked my backups a few times and found a few small problems I had to fix. I got the message from order users several times that your backups are useless unless you regularly test them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

My backup plan includes Backrest (restic) up to B2. So far so good!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I'm a long time user of jottacloud. It's not really meant for 10TB+, but works great for what I need it to do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I'm on Pcloud, server with rsync+rclone to move files from file system to cloud and use it as a unified file system.

The lifetime storage offer from pcloud has been worth it for me and I even upgraded it from 2 to 12 TB

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I use restic with a wrapper script to automate it on all of my machines. The backend storage can be anything that speaks S3, so B2, or iDrive would both work. I currently use Storj for my backend. It's globally distributed storage, so no single point of failure geographically and it's cheap. Backblaze is also a great company, but I've grown a little skeptical since they went public.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

If you're talking multiple Terrabytes and are located in the EU you might want to consider AWS Glacier I have like 6Tb on there and pay sub 20€ p.m. If you're in the EU you can request one free migration download by contacting the support. Otherwise you'll pay thousands.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I use Storj, it’s been my favorite for years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you mine? Always sounded like the best option if you dont have a friend in another georegion to replicate-to

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I did for a few years when the network started, but it became increasingly difficult to do so from a residential IP with slow upload speeds (cable internet).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I use borgbackup, with daily backup to borgbase.

At some point I want to set up a distributed file system between multiple locations as both a backup target and also a network share with automatic snapshots or some other undelete mechanism, but I still need to get the hardware for that and the current setup works well

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I can recommend Restic with Wasabi S3 as cloud storage backend.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I use 2 matching Synology NAS systems. 1 backs up to the other daily. Then one of them backs up to Synology C2 weekly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I also restic to b2. Found it the best value.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is actually one of my New Year's resolutions lol. Right now, my backups are local and my offsites are a hodgepodge of cloud services (basically holding encrypted container blobs of my stuff). Not ideal.

I'm looking at signing up for rsync.net since a lot of my backups are done via rsync anyway. Plan is to keep my local backups as-is and rsync them to rsync.net.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›