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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As long as that money is spent on public transit improvements, I think it's a great idea for many large cities.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

is spent on pubic transit

Hahahahahaha

Oh sorry, I thought you were joking. Of course they won't

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 minutes ago

I certainly hope it won't be spent on pubic transit, at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago

is there any particular reason you’re saying that besides cynicism? I am having trouble finding specifics, but there’s a lot of reporting that the MTA is expecting to raise $15 billion from congestion tolling to fund public transportation repairs and improvements and pretty much all of the proposals for this in the past required all of the revenues to be earmarked for use by the MTA

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 hour ago

Less cars is the answer! And in what transit is concerned I would say that convenience is very important. Like in Netherlands they got bike locking stations. Not simply a tube that you lock your bike into which is screwed to the front door of a building and fits 3 bikes. I'm talking massive building with an automated system that keeps your bike secure for when you get out of work after the train ride. And restrooms... With cleaning.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Are we sure that it's causing people to take alternative transit more vs just... Not going to Manhattan though? I'm all for it, just worth studying more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 42 minutes ago

Either way, the policy is working as intended; there are fewer superfluous car trips being made to lower manhattan. If people are deciding not to go over a $9 fee, I don't think they really needed to go that badly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 46 minutes ago

That's why the congestion pricing revenues ought to be spent on improving public transit, to maintain the tourist economy.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

inb4 the supreme court rules that congestion charging is unconstitutional and furthermore that public transport, too, is unconstitutional.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 hour ago

If the founding fathers didn’t explicitly mention it in the Constitution then clearly it’s unconstitutional.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 hours ago

Congestion pricing bad, private tolls good

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Can anybody tell me how much a drive through the congestion priced road would cost? Like a straight line?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 hours ago

It's not so much a congestion prices road, it's a zone. So anytime you enter that zone you pay $9 unless you make less than like $60 k then it's like $4-5, and emergency vehicles are free.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

$9 for cars, no matter if you go one block in or all the way through. And no daily charge for staying there multiple days, only charged when you enter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That’s super reasonable, and if it actually helps it’s probably fantastic. I wonder if things like emergency response times will significantly improve as a result.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

It's like $9

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Wonderful news for people with porches or flexible schedules.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Hey! I'm woahkin hee-ah!

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[–] [email protected] 177 points 6 hours ago (28 children)

Congestion pricing is such a good idea everywhere there is rock solid public transit alternatives. Where there's not, it just becomes a tax on the poor.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

It's so great I'm considering implementing it for my driveway and only enforcing it for people I don't like.

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