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[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago

Ok, Diogenes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I watched this happen in a research institution in the early 2000s. Scientists who had been heavy SGI, Sun, or HP customers realized that they could get a lot more bang for their buck with beige-box PCs running Linux (or occasionally FreeBSD). Aside from up-front costs, hardware upgrades and replacements were much cheaper and easier to get for PCs.

The big Unix vendors did not help their reputation when they started selling Windows machines — which all of them except Sun did in that era. It became increasingly clear that commercial Unix for scientific computing no longer had a future.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

SGI was able to sputter along while graphics cards caught up. Still large systems had some incredible hardware stuff like interconnections that im afraid got lost to humanity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, at least the era of "all the world's an x86-64" eventually ended.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

lol. not really for me but I don't use macs currently or smarphones really

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unix was paid (at least for source code), Linux was free and Mac was easy to use. Any questions?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, that is not entierly accurate...

Yes, Unix was paid, but companies didn't switch to Linux, they switched to Windows.

So the cost of Linux doesn't have anything to do with this.

The reason why Unix workstations died was that Windows became good enough and PCs we getting good enough.

Windows PCs were cheaper than Unix workstations, and if they are good enough then there is no reason for a company to pick something else.

Then we have the last nail in the coffin, Itanium.

Itanium was supposed to be the future, Intel marketed it hard enough that companies that had previously developed their own CPUs decided to switch to Itanium and stopped developing their own CPUs.

Then when Itanium proved to be a crap shoot, they had nowhere to go.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I didn't mention Windows because I don't remember any serious workstations using it. PCs did become good enough but it still wasn't the professional workstation level. Though if we're talking about computing in general, Windows has been the king ever since 95 or even 3.0.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

I worked on HP Unix systems, SGI Iris etc: Running CAD on then till around '96 by then the big CAD players had ported to Windows NT and everything got switched to a PC. Because by then PCs had caught up and were much cheaper than running the Unix software and hardware

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

I worked in local government that used Unix workstations for GIS (Graphic Information Systems) - mapping of the local government's property boundaries and many other layers. The DB was held on a DEC Alpha, and it was all very pricey, albeit very good at its job. ESRI ARCGIS, etc

When the time came to replace, they moved it all to Windows. The workstations were beefed-up PCs running NT4.0 and the DB was on a server with NT 4.0 server. DEC was gone by then, absorbed into Compaq, Alphas were discontinued, and no-one wanted to migrate to SUN or HP.