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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

The founder of this project says he created it because of “cancer culture” at Mozilla after he got banned from the thunderbird project for toxic and derogatory conduct. I’m good on that I’d rather stick to thunderbird thanks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

All I want is Microsoft Exchange support (I didn't choose to need it...)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Looking at the linked-from-the-“due to differences”-link emails… jesus christ… so that’s what people mean by Mozilla prioritizing greedy money…

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

If you read the developer's background and reasons for the fork, it's actually a lot more....... cringe.

Pretty much, the guy lost his shit because Mozilla is woke / SJW / DEI and all the lovely buzz words used by certain people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

Thanks for sharing this, looked into it myself and that's quite unfortunate.

Why does every piece of cool software end up having some reactionary midlife crisis behind them?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

That would make sense. I'd like some links.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Ngl that link puts me slightly off. It reads exactly like what people booted for very good reasons say

The following paragraph shows how so-called cancel culture was used weaponising [...]

And in the email, Mozilla talks about him violating their "inclusivity" policy... we also don't know what was reported, only the reasons stated.

Not saying that it wasn't unjust, just that we only have 1 perspective and it's written in a way that raises some red flags.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

Pretty bad when one side's perspective makes them look awful and the other side is the one accusing them of being awful 😬

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

I agree that I'd be very curious as to what the violations actually are, but...

  1. No specific instances of violations are referenced in the CPG emails
  2. There's no language in the CPG emails regarding prior warnings
  3. Suspension from the council is clearly out-of-process
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

Mozilla doesn't do loose coupling of UI and core, huh?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

One bug that irks me is deleting an email on a folder with sorting such as grouped sorting and Thunderbird loses the sorting settings, then I have to reapply the sorting settings again.....gah

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I had no idea!

Wonder if any of that stuff will make it upstream and if not if there’s good reason?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

As per the FAQ:

We will submit all changes to upstream to eventually benefit Thunderbird.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a way to use this as a drop in replacement easily? Like maybe move my Thunderbird profile folder into a Bettterbord folder, or maybe an automatic import option?

This looks promising but I don't really want to set up my email accounts and settings from scratch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

As per the FAQ they seem to share the exact same profile so you can seamlessly switch between them (provided both are the same dot release)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I just gave it a try and it does not pick up my existing Thunderbird data automatically, or prompt to import it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Same here :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

The instructions change if you're using flatpak. I was only able to get it to work with a manual import

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

for TB -> TB-flatpack simply pasting from ~/.thunderbird/ to ~/.var/app/org.mozilla.Thunderbird/.thunderbird/ did work for me. I might try betterbird sometime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I'm on Windows on this PC, so nothing being isolated here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

This is amazing. Thanks!