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I'm really worried about the state of the US despite being a white male who was I'll coast right through it. I'll also accept "I don't" and "very poorly" as answers

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Being the history nerd I am, I tell myself that this has happened before. Think of the Bronze Age Collapse or the Fall of Rome. For people who lived back then, it probably felt like the end of the world. But after many generations, they still managed to rebuild. I must keep going in order to document as much history as possible for future generations in the case that humanity survives all this crazy shit that is going on.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

We still don't really know what caused the Bronze Age Collapse, just that it happened and that we survived it, though it took several centuries to rebuild. The Fall of Rome happened so slowly that it was nearly invisible. Hell, there are still a few countries out there claiming the "Emporer" title and all are valid successors of the title.

This thing that is happening now is different. We know what's causing it. We know how to stop it, we're just not. And it's coming at us. Super fast. Who knows if we will survive this?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

I just stopped caring. I just want a meal a day and do stuff to not be bored.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not really having the option to not cope. Or not knowing how to actively choose to not cope. One of the two. For what it's worth, Tolkein genuinely was on to something with this one.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mostly just pretend that thing's can get better, if I just communism hard enough. Also sex and drugs.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I fully embrace the fact and wonder what will be ruined next.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

I'm doing good. I'm doing things that I enjoy, and I strive to improve. I believe we'll sort most of our shit out, it will never be even close to perfect, because we're dumb, materialistic, belligerent apes by nature, but it will be enough.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Some very good replies here. I share some of your worries, but with some recent issues I have also gotten a lot of practice seeing the good in things. Consider these 2 angles:

First is the Louis CK routine that includes β€œEverything is amazing and nobody is happy.” I think it comes down to humans getting used to things that work well and taking them for granted. Compared against most people who have ever lived, we are genius magical wizards who live in luxury. Unfortunately some of our magical technologies let us see the bad shit all around the world (and close to us) that our brains haven’t evolved to deal with.

Second is how absurdly unlikely and unique the existence of our consciousness seems. We are a collection of atoms forged in inconceivably massive exploding stars billions of years ago, aware of its own existence. We are literally the universe experiencing itself.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, I have taken moves to grow as much as I can, tend to chickens for eggs, and start just pulling back from my community because they are really terrible. Really, I should be building the community and mutual aid but the amount of people that care about nobody but themselves around here is just too high.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Depends on perspective. Ask my grandma who lives through the second world war whether it is better or worse. Our modern problem seem trivial to her comparing having no non-bombed house, very little food and very little way of taking care of her family.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

I cope with the US falling further by not living in the US, unfortunately I'm just privileged like that, sorry.

I have a few friends over there, and the state of things absolutely breaks my heart.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The world is getting better. There are some setbacks, yes. But there are lots of normal people making the world a better place, like the guy who figured out how to make artificial glaciers with river water in India, or the guy who recently built a forest on arid land by refining local techniques in Burkina Faso. Things will be okay!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It is getting better though. We are all just facing the issues of our era's.

Tech keeps going up, we are slowly making progress on climate change, the space race is back on, and superpowers don't directly fight eachother anymore. Hell, we've proven to beat once in a century pandemics in a few years with relatively speaking barely any deaths. Life's good

Yes, we have squabbles in the middle east and Africa, but that's par for the course and not an indicator for human development. The only thing that has really gone backwards is that war has been brought back to europe

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

I take comfort in getting older and getting closer to being dead.

I can barely wait. The comfort of nothingness is a great help.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I just hope no wars will be started over here (western Europe) in the next ten years, so my sons won't get drafted.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Just trying to be a lamp in the darkness.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I've put an ocean between myself and the US.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

shrug and say that things will have to get worse before they get better

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There are a lot of good news all the time. For example: I'm pro veganism and always heard that vegans make up about 2% of the population. Recently I heard that specifically in my city about 8% are vegans. That's amazing!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I just try to enjoy each day as I can without making the world any worse than I can help.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Life's pretty good here in Australia. No neighbours on the border causing problems, weather is generally good, lots of wide open empty nature to get out of the city, average salary is $93k and unemployment is low, crime is low. Inequality is a problem although our Gini coefficient has actually lowered recently. There's a lot of life to enjoy, and really the endless stream of negativity is only experienced through the media, not in real life, so I switched off the TV and just focus on what's going on around me, enjoying the people, places and activities that I like, and things feel quite positive.

Turn off the news, it's bad for the psyche.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The average salary is around $68k source

edit I should say median, not average.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Well I eat quite unhealthy, so I'm thinking I'll probably die earlier then most. Sooo I guess I got that going for me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I'm not in a position to affect change in a powerful way. So I try to stay educated and informed, I vote at the ballot box, I vote with my wallet, I donate what I reasonably can to places where I think it will help, and I speak out when it's appropriate to do so.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Pretty well. The resistance lives. We are all part of it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

By trying to get involved with politics. I'm part of a political party, but want to be involved more though. I also participate in protests sometimes, but want to participate in direct actions as well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Personally I am not really worried. Maybe I am in denial but I think a lot of the negative stuff is way over exposed with 24/7 news cycle and crazy social media.

Bad news and anger drive engagement metrics the best so that is all you will hear about.

So everything I hear I just automatically assume it is way over blown and I should lower the worry factor.

If it is getting overwhelming I would recommend you unplug yourself for a little while and do something you enjoy.

2023 has some amazing games come out maybe pick on of those up and give it a try?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Substance abuse :)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I like to think about the historical perspective. It's not much consolation but systems like these can't maintain themselves forever, cracks are showing and the US really is more vulnerable than people would like to admit.

Once things start changing there will likely be a lot of problems, things will probably get worse in some ways, but I think even if I don't survive to see what people come up with in the aftermath of the US I can get satisfaction from seeing it burn.

When you read history you learn humans are very resilient, humans will not end when the empire does. Maybe the failure of this place will be good for the world.

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