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I like Zen so much I stopped browser hopping. It has sane defaults, vertical tabs default, and it's x64_v3 optimized speed is nice. Default theming is nice, too.

Reminder: Microsoft GitHub social media likes is not an accurate barometer of much. Starhacking is a thing & it tells you nothing of the code quality, but just that more authenticated Microsoft accounts, real or fake, have pressed a button—where the more popular/normie/maintstream languages/frameworks get the most signal. You can also read anecdotes thah some folks use this as a bookmark to look at later rather than actually using or enjoying a project.

Free software doesn’t need to rely on a dubious value signal on a proprietary social media platform like MS Github.

Let's face it: People aren't gonna take something named 'Floorp' seriously.

If you do, especially to the point you're downvoting this, maybe it's time to ask yourselves why people are not taking you seriously.

I'll start believing or caring about any alternative browsers when I see a big influx of money comming to a browser project. Just grabbing a codebase and changing some settings and releasing it with a new name is not really creating or maintaining a browser. People keep thinking that it's easy to maintain a huge project like a browser by just praying and volunteers.

I ended up liking it a lot. I don't know why or how, but it (as Flatpak) uses less RAM and CPU than native (RPM) Firefox, so I've been enjoying testing it as daily driver for basic navigation. I still use Firefox as my main browser, but Zen works fine, has good proposals and is still improving and hearing the community. Well done and well deserved

No clue why except i think people are mostly just really fed up with Mozilla making a non profit about everything but their browser. I could see a lot of people prefer the name and the willingness to try new stuff compared to floorp.

But really i think most of it is it's very different from Firefox and people are tired of Firefox.... But still hate chromium.

I'm sticking with Floorp for now. Faster development doesn't mean it will be sustainable, but we'll see. Or necessarily that all feayures may be good. More iant better. Brave and Opera GX have a bunch of features too.

But I'm using Firefox and Floorp as a variant because I want something that gets fundamentals right. And if Zen becomes huge, great.

Zen doesn’t even support passkeys properly. I stopped using it almost immediately after trying it. I attribute it to good marketing and PR as an Arc alternative. Especially after Arc showed their hand very clearly regarding how they’d respond to Manifest v3 and then the recent security fiasco.

When everyone is in the market for a new Browser and you’re selling new ideas, you’ll find a lot of buyers. Hopefully from the ashes of Firefox someone comes out on top though. For now I’ll keep using my customized FF for everything, but I imagine that will have to change in the not too distant future.

Current ff has a vertical tabs sidebar pref in about:config (I currently use it that way)

I read the zen documentation (not much there)

I really don't see anything special about it.

Their security sets insecure SSL as broken. OK. I set that years ago in about:config Does it use post quantum encryption? Does it use ECH? Does it . so many questions.

I'm good with my personally tweaked and hardened versions of Firefox/arkenfox.

To me this looks mostly cosmetic.