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Tommy Tuberville threatens to end career of any GOP senator who blocks Matt Gaetz
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Yeah I’m sure senators will respond well to threats — as well as some house members did to threats from Gym Jordan to make him Speaker.
are these those checks and balances i’ve heard so much about?
Yes, but not in the way Sen McChucklefuck thinks. Senators are a famously ornery bunch. They're not going to respond well to threats.
No, they use PayPal instead of checks now.
No gaetz paid for his sex trafficking of underage girls with Venmo, that's how they caught him.
Tuberville is another reason why Alabama remains f'ed up.
Alabama is the anus of the usa.
Tuberville? More like GROOMERville.
Tuberville defended Trump’s right to choose his team, urging senators to “vote with President Trump.”
The same Tuberville that held up more than 300 of Biden's non-political military promotions now thinks nominations should just get a rubber stamp?
Yes. They don't care. Stop wasting your time pointing out their overt hypocrisy. It's exactly what they want.
You are right. These people only speak one language. The same language we spoke to the Nazis last time.
I mean if you were hoping for some gotcha on them being hypocrites you should know by now that they don't care and neither do their supporters.
Tuberville himself wouldn't, but a lot of Republicans thought that was dumb as shit and was directly hurting military readiness. He does not have a good reputation in his own party thanks to that stunt. Tuberville's voters will still come out for him, but it takes more than that to get things done in Congress.
It's quite possible that more than a few Republicans will ignore Tuberville. The senate breakdown will be 47/53, so it doesn't take many to stop it.
Being moral or consistent is viewed as a weakness for the qons.
Yes. He would have zero issue with your comment. He would smile. He is not attempting to be logically consistent
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And this is why they will fall in line. Tuberville's threat is very, very real.
Trump has long shown his power to make or break political careers in the GOP. No prominent member of the GOP has so much as criticized Trump and had their political careers remain intact. Liz Cheney is a prime example. Mitch fucking McConnell, who spent decades shaping the far right of the GOP and spent the past 10 years leading Trump's rise to power in the first place, is now being ostracized by some in his own party for not being MAGA enough. Adam Kinzinger, a former harsh critic of Trump, is now apparently trying to revive his political career by following the Kevin McCarthy playbook of sucking up to Trump..
They have both trifectas. They've got the White House/Congress/Supreme Court trifecta, along with the White House/HOR/Senate. It's their game. They get to play the game by their rules. And Trump has said that they're basically going to play Calvinball with the rules to get what they want. They have 53 seats in the Senate. If 51 of them decide that a simple majority can remove a member because they fucking say so, then that's the rule and there's nothing you or I can do about it.
This is the 2nd Trump administration. Get on board or get run over. Trump has far, FAR more power and influence than he had during his first adminstration. Get in his way and you will be purged. It's that simple.
And remember, all you people all over the other threads bitching and saying you couldn't vote for Harris because Liz Cheney showed up with her that one time....remember that you fucking voted for this.
On the Harris🤎Cheney issue, I think it's notable that the Harris turnout was actually quite large in many places, but the trump turnout was larger.
I can't remember what media I was doomfully consuming, but someone basically said Dems should not try to court Republicans to vote... because even if it works, they'll arrive at the polls and vote Republican.
I can’t remember what media I was doomfully consuming, but someone basically said Dems should not try to court Republicans to vote… because even if it works, they’ll arrive at the polls and vote Republican.
Now this is an interesting take on it that at least makes some more sense. I don't think we have any precedent to really go on; how many times do we really see someone from one party advocating for the other guy. It would be interesting to study how valid it actually is.
I'm not aligned with Kinzinger but I don't really see the kissass vibes. I think he remains as principled as ever but he is acknowledging the new conditions of the game.
This is the 2nd Trump administration. Get on board or get run over. Trump has *far, FAR* more power and influence than he had during his first adminstration.
Hoping you’re wrong and his mandate fades quickly and he becomes an ineffective lame duck as early into this upcoming term as possible.
So am I, but if I were a betting man.....
I bet on incompetence
It's our primary hope
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then that's the rule and there's nothing you or I can do about it.
That is NOT true!
There's nothing legal we can do about it, but that not the same thing.
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GOP Senators: Sorry, I won't get to represent you this term. Thanks for the votes though, and the 6-figure salary and sweet benefits package. Byeeee!
And lifetime pension regardless of time served.
The pension value can be up to 80% of the member's final salary, which is $174,000 per year. At an 80% rate, that's a pension benefit of $139,200. (The Speaker of the House has a salary of $223,500. The Senate President makes $193,400, as do the majority and minority leaders in the House and Senate.) All benefits are taxpayer-funded.
I don't think that's a necessarily bad thing. You don't want to pay politicians less money, when there is very little for anyone not rich or corrupt to run as it is.
In fact... I think we should raise all of their salaries to $200k a year, and implement a $10 national minimum wage. Each congress members salary is a multiple of 20 of the minimum wage in their state. So let's say your state has a $15 minimum wage, congratulations you make $250,000 rather than the base.
The salary is fine but not only is "insider trading" allowed but there's no divestment or blind trust requirement. Some politicians are "more equal" than others because they're already millionaires. The whole lawmaker thing is a side-gig.
Right... that's why there should be a high salary and good pension for running, getting elected and serving. If you can run once and technically retire decently, it would incentivize normal people to run. Hopefully once you have enough regular folk you can ban insider trading.
But even as it is, insider trading only really helps the people with money already. What am I gonna take the pittance I have in the bank and invest it? I would only be slightly less poor, even with some amazing trades.
The tradition of giving pensions (at least for the president) started under Eisenhower. Everyone took one so Truman wouldn’t be humiliated because he was one of the few who entered office without prior wealth.
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