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[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago

My boss says “you’ll”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 27 minutes ago

grow up more on the west side of the US and I'd hear y'all every day lol. but more relevant, I don't think I've ever met a trans friend who would ever get offended being called y'all, I know I wouldn't haha

P.S. hey trans people, y'all cool asf <3

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

People where I am from call everyone "you guys" - men, women, trans, doesn't matter, everyone is just "you guys" even when it's a woman addressing a group of women.

The literal meaning isn't gender neutral, but in actual practice, it 100% is.

As for "y'all" or "you all", I don't see how it could possibly be interpreted as offensive to any gender.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago

The literal meaning isn’t gender neutral, but in actual practice, it 100% is.

Unless you can ask a straight man how many guys he's slept with, it isn't gender neutral, no matter how resistant to this fact you are.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

"You People" is the one to be avoided

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"howdy fuckers" is the opposite as it sounds bad on paper but in practice it goes over well (except with middle aged moms)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

"G'day cunts" goes over either extremely well or extremely poorly, with no in-between

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah I don't see that one going over well anywhere

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

As for “y’all” or “you all”, I don’t see how it could possibly be interpreted as offensive to any gender.

I think "we don't take kindly to y'all" to a trans person would likely be offensive. Beyond that though, you're probably okay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I mean ... Thats just an all out threat with y'all acting as an exclusionary statement.

All in all agree with your point tho.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm from "you guys" but I've lived in "y'all" and now I'm forever team "y'all," regardless of where I'm living.

It's the best export from the south, except maybe Texas brisket and pecan pie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

...y'all roughly correlates with coke, although there are some deep pockets of soda-water in the back country...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Maine I think loops back around to y’all territory…

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 hours ago

I mean, neither "you" nor "all" is a gendered term in any way

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Y'all is the opposite of offensive for trans people. I lived in the south for a while, and I now use y'all specifically to be inclusive. I wouldn't say "you guys" is offensive to trans women, but I would say for me and likely other trans women it briefly brings to mind being misgendered in the past, so I would call it a small kindness to ube as gender neutral as possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Thanks comrade

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

We need a better second person plural in English. Y'all works but its a big language gap

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

Hey...

Folks

Friends

Comrades

Everyone

People

Pals

You motley crew

Weirdos

Siblings

Fuckers

..how you doing, wanna go to the movies?

(this is by no means exhaustive list, the point is there are plenty of existing and perfectly acceptable alternatives, pick one, or more, and get comfortable with it)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've heard people say "yous" before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I know. I hate it. I don't know why

[–] [email protected] 57 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (8 children)

"y'all" fills a legitimately useful gap the English language has. Other languages have a word like this.

Edit: also something cool I just found out, some languages have a way to disinguish "we" (you and I), and "we" (me and the rest of us, not you). It's called clusivity and is missing from European languages. Many indigenous languages of the Americas and Oceania have this, as well as Vietnamese and northern dialects of Mandarin.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Y'all reminds me of the bible belt. I'm not transgender but I am queer and now and then it makes me uncomfortable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Queer people who live in the bible belt still say "y'all". It literally means "you all".

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

If you live on the line, or move north/west, it's now "you all".

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not from the south and use "y'all" all the time. Find it very useful for filling in a gap that English has and slightly faster than saying "you all". Its gender neutral in my opinion.

Never once thought of it as offensive.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

People who don't even live in the USA saying "y'all" is pure pain

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Why? I am not living in the us but it's a useful phrase.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I say "all of y'all" and make a point to really emphasize the "'".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

You say "of?"

I thought it was basically all y'all

Or all'o'y'all

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

Trust me there are many more areas that say y'all

[–] [email protected] 34 points 14 hours ago (9 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Yinz goin aht n abaht in dahntahn Picksburgh to watch da Stillers game?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yall is the genderless southern hospitality greeting.

No bullshit no hate. Only yall

[–] [email protected] 44 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I've used y'all intentionally as a gender neutral term for years in the south.

Lately I've even seen "y'all means all" used as a pride slogan in the south.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Awesome! Thanks comrade.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

I bought a shirt once in Pittsburgh that says, “Yinz is a gender-neutral p pronoun”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Where does this put Scott the Woz?

[–] [email protected] 77 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I would have thought that “y’all” is even more so gender neutral and therefore less offensive/more accepted. It’s a contraction of “you all” right?

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