Fucking brutal.
I mean wow. The hometown hero plays before an empty arena.
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The hits really keep coming today
I'm not even lying yall I just got home and cried for a while sitting in the work van
I also looked at some guns today
This is rough
Edit: I feel I should make it clear, I'm not a risk to myself or anyone, I'm just fucking terrified
We should have just turned the convention into a mini-primary, like Obama wanted. Maybe this was the reason why he was so hesitant to endorse Kamala. He wanted her to earn it because thats how you get people to vote for you.
Jesus christ someone couldn't have just pushed Biden down some stairs in like, February? Not like a bunch, but maybe 3-4? Just enough for us to have had some kind of testing of the candidates?
It's mind-blowing how badly the DNC fucked this all up. They learned nothing from history, theirs or their opponent's. If that party doesn't actually crumble as a result of this, both from internal and external pressures, I'll be amazed.
I'm so angry. And scared. All at once. Just miserable really.
If that party doesn’t actually crumble as a result of this, both from internal and external pressures, I’ll be amazed.
Oh the Irony, this is exactly what I thought would happen to the Republicans.
We could hope but the fact is, the right wing in America is organized and the left just isn't. Evangelical conservatives have been working for this for years, and it's gotten them results - no Republicans would give up power to voice their actual dissent meaningfully. They bought the ticket, they're taking the ride.
The Democrats are just a flimsy mishmash of corrupt manipulators. They haven't had a coherent plan for ages. And now, they've got nothing, and a man is about to retake office who's threatened to use the State against his political opponents.
If I were a top Democrat right now, I'd be thinking real hard about whether the party even has a future, long-term.
If I were a top Democrat, I'd be thinking real hard about whether it is going to be safe to stay in the country.
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I think Pete Butigeg would have been a stronger candidate.
Speaking from across the pond, I think Pete would have been brilliant... but then that's hardly part of the job description any more is it? A breeze block with the ability to talk shit and grift would unfortunately be a far more electable candidate this year.
Plus, if electing a woman was too troublesome for people to handle, what would happen if they fielded one of the gays!!!?!??
It's a disgrace really. Either Pete or Kamala would have been a safe pair of hands.
I'm also from the UK but from what I could tell at least Pete has some personality. Kamala ran as the establishment manifested in human form, clumsily avoiding questions or policy details in media appearances. She was polling at 4% of popularity amongst democrat voters during the 2020 primaries. I think those factors were more influential than her being a woman,
Absolutely agree with you - I think perhaps Kamala was too safe a pair of hands and didn't generate enough excitement - but then I'm too old for watching fancy headline grabbers (though Ed Davey's approach to Lib Dem vote grabbing at the GE this year was highly entertaining) so to me, a boring but competent candidate is good for me.
I suppose I only brough up her gender and his sexuality because they both share an "outlier" characteristic that Republicans in general aren't too fond of.
Nice to hear from you fellow Brit!
So you think someone who was incompetent in his job in the Biden admin, failed in primaries, only has real experience as a mayor, is gay, and in 2020 was incessantly ridiculed by insecure men as "mayo Pete" and endless permutations of "butt"-xyz due to being gay....would have won.
Lol
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Don't kill yourself
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If you decide to buy a gun, I suggest a 1911, they're fun to shoot!
I think they're implying for safety.... not for an easy way out.
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So, I hear you, but who do you think would've outperformed Harris? And don't say someone more progressive, because the battleground states would just be that much redder.
So what? Redder than blood red?
Yes. Yes, exactly. Redder than what we just saw. Because all those rural motherfuckers looked at Harris, probably the most progressive candidate we've had during my lifetime and I'm getting fucking old, looked at Trump, and they fucking chose Trump.
They. Fucking. Chose. Trump.
I don't know what those stupid motherfuckers want, but it's obviously not healthcare or a god damned economy.
My understanding is that Trump did not outperform his 2020 returns and Harris did not outperform Biden’s 2020 returns. We didn’t get more Trump voters than pat elections, we just got fewer Democratic voters. Why was Democratic turnout so bad? Was it really because Harris was too liberal? I haven’t seen any evidence of that. I suspect that it’s because Harris isn’t very charismatic (compared to candidates like Obama or Bill Clinton). I also suspect that turnout was low because Harris was talking more about maintaining the status quo instead of talking about change. If she was more liberal then maybe more of the base would be motivated to turn out? IDK but I’m sure there will be a million think pieces on the topic 😔
The rural republican voters were never going to vote for Harris. Her only chance was to motivate the progressives to go out and vote but instead she spit on them at every opporitunity and sprinted to the right to try and court votes she was never going to get anyways.
Just look at the votes. Trumps vote total barely changed. Harris lost more than 10 million votes for the DNC. That says nobody switched from trump to Harris but a lot of people were so disgusted with Harris that they didn't even bother to show up.
a lot of people were so disgusted with Harris that they didn't even bother to show up.
Why??? Gaza? One fucking issue out of fifty that Trump will be ten times worse on anyway? I'm not thrilled about Gaza, but now in their name, even more Gaza's will die, plus Ukrainians, our own women, trans kids, immune compromised, whomever dies as a result of NATO collapsing, whoever dies because of climate change, refugees.
And every single person who voted for Trump over the economy, I fucking guarantee if Gaza was on fire from one end to the other they wouldn't piss on it to put it out.
My wife swears up and down that rural and rural-adjacent suburban votes will simply never vote for a woman.
My son, who lives and works in Detroit, says the Muslims would rather ban abortion than pet much any other issue. The news says trump made major inroads with gen z boys.
I don't know the answer. I'm not sure anyone does. But on every single fucking issue, whatever you care about, there isn't one single issue on which Trump would be the better pick, unless you just want to fucking burn it all down. Or you're a multi multi millionaire who just wants to pay less taxes.
I have to go get started on tomorrow's hangover.
They want the demographics they dislike to suffer. That's it, they don't give a shit about policy.
I know for lots of them that's probably true. But it's not fifty percent of the country.
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It's a good idea to arm yourself. Protect yourself and your own.
This just raises the question for me about electronic voting machines. I know that 12 states are using machines with no paper trail, I wanna know if my suspicion that Wisconsin may be one of those is correct.
You just gotta deal with the reality that people wanted trump.
Already dealing with it. Those fuckers are being cut out of my life. Anyone that voted for the mango mussolini, I'm no longer speaking to or helping in any way. Many are shocked, because I used to be known as the friendliest person in my town by several people.
I feel you. I wouldn’t piss on a republican if it was on fire.
It's not
how is it possible for every piece of news to keep getting worse
This isn't even news. Walz is from a deeply red area of the state. There was basically a 0% chance they went blue.
Yeah, home advantage is less and less relevant every year. Once upon a time this would be news, but it's a new era and he wasn't even the presidential candidate.
I suggest you buckle up.
If people knew what Blue Earth is like, this wouldn't be surprising.
Yep, sure we’ve got Mankato, but there’s a reason he was the first democrat elected to congress in forever from CD 1.
Yep I never thought for a second Harris-Walz would've won that district from the moment he was selected
Non US here can you give a recap?
The entire southeastern corner of Minnesota is deeply conservative. As someone who grew up in Fillmore county, the only surprise from my state is that Olmsted county went blue
I'm really wondering if there's been election interference from GOP agents. Republicans are known for projecting, so I wouldn't be surprised.
This isn't election interference. Wals is from a very red county. This wasn't news for anyone from MN. It was just an easy headline.
It would have been far more newsworthy if they had voted for him.
There was plenty of misinformation peddled by foreign actors(edit: and domestic ones tbh). Call that what you will
We're morons manipulated into voting against their interests, securing the election for Trump? Absolutely. Unfortunately though, he won the votes fair and square. Democrats sucked at messaging, voters sucked at being decent fucking humans. Now we all get to enjoy the consequences of their psychopathy.
Bro. The left sat this one out. What is it, 17 million votes we were short of Biden’s victory? That’s pathetic.
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