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I was gonna title this "And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice" and then write "Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again" here, but I'm not sure if that comes off like gloating and that's honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

Til a few hundred words by rando dude I've never heard of is an "autopsy".

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't it amazing that both the female democratic candidates for president in our history have campaigned with war criminals and then lost. I wonder if there's a lesson there?

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Democrats were too busy making sure progressive candidates were banned from participating in democracy.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

🇺🇸 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED 🇺🇸

The reality is that neoliberals in power, and even many poor deluded neoliberal voters, would rather have Republicans in charge than people interested in addressing the intentional and by design inequity of our economy, despite all the social issues that very inequity causes and exacerbates they then falsely claim to care about, including abortion, which is often correctly an economic decision.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/15/house-speaker-nancy-pelosi-opposes-banning-stock-buys-by-congress-members.html

I voted blue out of harm reduction as I always have, without hope, just to minimize what little cruelty I have the power to potentially minimize, but they did this to themselves, as we never get a vote on our economic system or the cruelty it propagates, because (D) and (R) are on the take, and I've yet to meet an affluent person of either party take issue with the economic system they benefit from despite our legions of homeless and barely subsisting people without the means to bribe officials on their behalf, and their very existence is proof of this economy's failure as a lowly tool to better equitibly distribute goods and services in service to a society that an economy is meant to be.

Our economy, and by that I mean our oligarch class that sits above the society they have no stake in, instead orders our society around through the legislators they own solely to maximize their private profit against all other concerns, and it's beyond perverse. We've just been propagandized our entire lives to consider it to be the natural state of things by self-serving for profit media and captured state government's capitalist indoctrinating curriculum.

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[–] [email protected] 169 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Democrats are completely out of touch. them expecting voters putting other issues on top of them making ends meets and food on the table (like mocking Vance's egg prices ), all the while most polls showing the economy is the biggest concern with 38 % of all voters, is just simply delusional

And they have lost both the popular and electoral college vote. meaning the real problem here is them.

And don't get me started on the propaganda of Iowa's early voters polls showing a Kamala landslide just 2 days before election day. If you live in a left wing bubble and believe this shit, than this should be a hard smack back into reality.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (9 children)

So I guess people actually think Trump and Musk are going to help them with their egg prices?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes, you might find it stupid or illogical, but they (trump , elmo) are seen as smart and successful, and they lived under better circumstances in the last Trump term.

That's democracy, everyone has a say, whether their opinions or feelings are right or wrong. but instead of the democrats putting the work to meet these people they have chosen to belittle them. and that has cost them so far the Presidency and the Senate.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"they lived under better circumstances in the last Trump term"

They lived under fucking Covid in the last Trump term, when everyone was confined to their homes while supply lines disintegrated and the cost of food more than doubled, while ashes from rampant forest fires rained down from a blood red sky.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago

That was only the end of it though. Through most of it, many aspects of the economy were better, for most people. He was just as complicit in why inflation, housing costs, etc. got so bad. However, do you think most people understand how the free money given, mostly under Biden, as a stimulus to the populace, had little effect on the inflation vs financial institutions drowning in oceans of free money, for 20 years? Do you think most people are even aware that was going on? Do you think most of them understand how private equity, and changes in its regulation, caused the housing cost crisis, and not supply being overwhelmed by the demand of immigrants?

I talked to someone I used to do underwriting, for things like mortgages, a few months back. He bought the immigrants buying up all the housing line. He just refused to believe private equity, something he definitely understands, is responsible, regardless of the fact that even those private equity institutions' data say they are at fault. It is much easier to say "housing unaffordable, close border" than to have to address the massive systemic changes that need to be made.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

So this proves we need to rebuild or create a true opposition party. Running as a moderate party just continously pushes America politics right. Those that wanted a fully different option just stay home on election day. This isn't a both sides argument, just facts. We can't keep failing in this way when the writing is on the wall. We need to change the leadership in the dems. They all need to go! Yes race and gender played a role but Trump is projected to get 6 million less votes this time around than last time. So that means the base for dems just didn't vote. Yes that's upsetting but trying to shame and meme them into voting will never work. Give people something to vote for, not just against. Republicans get it but using fear and promising a better life for their base. (even at the expense of others they at least give that to their base.)such a sad day in America and the only thing that'll save us is to come together as a community and create a party that represents that community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Last time we tried and succeeded in send some of the most progressive representatives to the House. They did run on a Democratic ticket but were far to the left of anything that Democrats have ever stood for. Democrats co-opted them, used them to increase their progressive credentials and then sidelined them.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago

Running as a moderate party just continously pushes America politics right.

100% this

In the UK the left-wing party, Labour, very drastically moved themselves to the centre, rebranding as New Labour.

Since then, the Conservatives have increasingly adopted far-right policies and everybody just accepts it as normal.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Last time we tried to make a new party it failed and called spoilers.

Last time we tried to do grassroots on the federal level, they pushed him out and said you're the bad guys for supporting him.

They say to push the next person to the left but when you ask "Hey why are we bombing brown people when we can help Ukraine?" you're called a Russian asset who hates Americans.

I don't think Americans want actual policies that help. Every time someone tries to help on all levels of engagement to government they're shafted, outbid, marginalized, and then blamed for when the milquetoast candidate loses. And pure evil just wins, again.

We've been fucked in 2000, the DNC should have used 2016 as a wake up call for what went wrong, and instead learned nothing.

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