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Puerto Ricans cannot vote in general elections despite being U.S. citizens, but they can exert a powerful influence with relatives on the mainland. Phones across the island of 3.2 million people were ringing minutes after the speaker derided the U.S. territory Sunday night, and they still buzzed Monday.

Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris is competing with Trump to win over Puerto Rican communities in Pennsylvania and other swing states. Shortly after stand-up comic Tony Hinchcliffe said that, “I don’t know if you guys know this, but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico,” Puerto Rican reggaeton superstar Bad Bunny announced he was backing Harris.

After Sunday’s rally, a senior adviser for the Trump campain, Danielle Alvarez, said in a statement that Hinchcliffe’s joke did “not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign.”

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

Can American citizens living abroad vote?

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[–] [email protected] 139 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Taxation without representation

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[–] [email protected] 161 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Puerto Rico needs to be a state already. Washington DC too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

Puerto Rico periodically votes on whether or not to pursue becoming a state, becoming a state doesn't win except in one vote that was specifically a non-binding vote on the topic and that had much lower turnout than other votes on the idea.

DC was literally created specifically to not be a state, so that no state held the seat of the federal government.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 21 hours ago (11 children)

What happened "no taxation without representation" that the colonists fought for in the war of independence? Apparently it only applies to white people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

It was a lie from the start, it only ever applied to a few wealthy old white men who didn't want any cuts to their profit margins after the British fought a costly war to defend them from French and Native retaliation.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 19 hours ago

If definitely only did apply to white people. And only men.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (5 children)

Edit: my information was out of date

Tell the Puerto Ricans that, we're waiting on them reaching 51% in favor.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

But first you should probably fix those islanders that aren't even citizens.

Iirc making people citizenshipless is even against international law?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Which islanders are you referring to?

People born in Guam, the US Virgin Islands, and American Samoa all have American citizenship (just like Puerto Ricans).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Ok, technically they are US nationals but not US citizens. They still have US passports, but their passports are slightly different.

International law defines a "stateless" person as neither a national nor a citizen of any country. So the UN Conventions on Statelessness do not apply to American Samoans. Likewise the UN Charter and the Universal Declaration on Human Rights provide guarantees of "nationality", not citizenship.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

Sadly it’s not like that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statelessness

Canada, for example, withdraw the citizenship to children of Canadians that haven’t lived at least 1 year in Canada before 18yo

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Combine the Carolinas and Dakotas, add DC and Puerto Rico. No flag change.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Got it, so North Carokota, South Dakolina, and DC and Puerto Rico. I think it’s a great idea.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

ok but why does carakota go kinda hard

[–] [email protected] 14 points 18 hours ago

I have no problem with Dakolina either

[–] [email protected] 33 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (6 children)

I was gonna say it's ridiculous to make DC a state, it's just a city!

Turns out more people live in DC than Wyoming or Vermont LOL. So I'm down!

Also I've heard that monkey's brains, although popular in Cantonese cuisine, are not often found there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

But it doesn't have an airport. Or a car dealership. There's a car dealership a few blocks from the Capitol building, but it doesn't have one.

(This was an actual argument from the GOP on the floor of Congress.)

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 21 hours ago

I can just hear those MAGA morons smugly chuckling, "What can they do LOL they can't even vote, fuck 'em!"

No, fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 204 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Why the fuck are US citizens not allowed to vote in a US election?

[–] [email protected] 168 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Because each state is given the power to elect a president, not the voters. Puerto Rico isn’t a state so their voters aren’t represented properly.

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